this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2023
1076 points (90.8% liked)

Showerthoughts

29723 readers
1320 users here now

A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.

Rules

  1. All posts must be showerthoughts
  2. The entire showerthought must be in the title
  3. Avoid politics
    1. NEW RULE as of 5 Nov 2024, trying it out
    2. Political posts often end up being circle jerks (not offering unique perspective) or enflaming (too much work for mods).
    3. Try c/politicaldiscussion, volunteer as a mod here, or start your own community.
  4. Posts must be original/unique
  5. Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct-----

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 150 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nah, you can't. It's still a great resource, but you always gotta read it critically.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The thing is that it is very easy to read Wikipedia critically, since it lists every single source they get info from at the bottom of the page.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And here I am fixing missing sources on some wiki articles just yesterday.

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone has to do the job for everyone else can enjoy it.

Thank you very much for your service my friend.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Haha you're welcome. I just wished that the original authors would be more careful about providing sources for claims or statements.

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The hero we don't deserve

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 year ago

I feel like news sources used to link to their sources too, but now it seems to be an infinite chain of links to their own articles, never directly taking you to the first hand source of information (unless they are the source).

[–] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is, if the place you're getting your information from doesn't list it's sources, you can't trust it. Whenever I'm researching a thing on the internet and I find an article or a paper, I don't just stop there, I check where they got their info, then I find that source and read it. I follow it all the way back until I find the primary source.

Like the other day I was writing a paper about a particular court case. In the opinions, as in most cases, they use precedent and cite prior cases. So I found the other cases that referred to the thing I was writing about, and it turns out they were also just using prior cases. I had to go 6 deep before I found them referencing the actual constitution for one of them. On another I found it interesting that the most recent use case was so far removed from what the original one was about and it was could probably be questionable to even use it as precedent if they had used the original instead of another case.

Anyway, the point is, always check sources. If anyone says anything on the internet, assume it's just their opinion until you check and follow the sources..

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Are you familiar with Harlow V Fitzgerald, and the full text of article 1983 including the 16 words that went missing in n 1874 when it was "copied" from the Congressional Record into the Federal Register? I'm not a lawyer, but I do want that decision reviewed, since as the law was written and passed by Congress, Harlow V Fitzgerald should have gone the other way.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And very often it's dead links or sources that don't say what the article pretends...

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

That's why you don't use Wikipedia as your primary source, you follow the citations. Of course, if you can't verify that it's accurate information, don't report it, but it can be used as a jump off to find a legitimate source if the information you cant immediately verify is useful.

[–] Torvum@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Love reading any article then opening the talk tab for the civil war of edits proposed.

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You should read everything critically. Which is easier on Wikipedia because it provides sources.