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[–] pensa@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Why SpaceX? I hate Musk and do not support any of his other... anythings. However, rocket go zoom then land without boom is fun to watch. I am genuinely curious why SpaceX is bad.

I completely agree about everything else you mentioned.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (18 children)

However, rocket go zoom then land without boom is fun to watch.

Yeah, Musk is a true innovater by having them blow up the concrete launchpad on launch instead...

The government got more money from the patents NASA got then it cost to fund NASA. Privatizing space hurts everyone except the rich asshole who gets the parents.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (34 children)

For fucks sake.

I clearly said I do not like musk. I even went as far as saying I hate him but still that's the first place you went. What the fuck?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah, but there's also the cognitive dissonance of you saying SpaceX is fun because they don't explode...

But they do explode. Waaaaay more than NASA. Because if a NASA launch goes bad, everyone pays attention. If SpaceX goes bad, people just shrug

So by your own metrics you just said...

NASA is better than SpaceX.

No matter what position I took, it would have disagreed with your comment, because your comment disagrees with itself. Which explains why you think spacex is a positive.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did not say NASA was better than SpaceX, or the other way around. You are putting words in my mouth. Don't do that.

Here is a link to a comment that discusses exactly what you are saying, and it was posted before your comment. So maybe read first then comment.
https://kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.world/t/568410/What-are-some-companies-that-deserve-to-be-boycotted-to#entry-comment-3161709

[–] Balex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SpaceX has only had 2 mission failures out of 274 total missions. Since 2017 SpaceX has had a 100% success rate which is a vast majority of its total missions. The recent explosions have been test rockets and expected to blow up, it's how they learn and innovate so quickly. NASA takes billions of dollars and 10+ years to successfully launch a rocket on the first attempt. It's just 2 different approaches to design and innovation.

Nah dude. You don't understand. A guy we don't like is tangibly related to the space program. Fuck all them scientists and engineers. They're all evil. Every. Single. One of them.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

why SpaceX is bad.

For example they "decorated" our night sky with thousands of their satellites. Never asked permission. Astronomers around the globe are pissed because their work & results gets worse. Other people who own satellites are pissed because they don't behave up there.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I have read about the interference with astronomy and am not for it. It didn't occur to me when I asked.

Thanks for answering my question.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would like to point out that they did ask for permission. Though obviously they didn't ask for permission from every government in the world, nor did they ask the astronomy community.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Then that doesn't help them.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Providing global Internet is worth it. That said, I'd much rather see it done in a non profit way, and definitely not under the muskrat's control.

[–] Traegs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Except the carbon footprint of Starlink is estimated to be 30x greater than terrestrial alternatives.

More than half of all satellites in space are already Starlink at around 5,000, with 12,000 planned in the near future and up to 42,000 as a later expansion.

It's just not sustainable.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I'd love to be able to get a usable terrestrial alternative at my place. Wonky 4G ain't it. 5G is years away, if it ever gets here. Fibre? Perish the thought.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This thread is so full of people complaining about ISP monopolies too

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Private companies have no business being in space. It sets a dangerous precedent for the future.

Any good publicity for SpaceX is ultimately good publicity for Musk, who's made himself the face of that company too.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank you for being the first comment that is not simply "musk bad." I'm not being sarcastic. I seriously appreciate you answering my question.

You make a good point about private companies in space and I agree with it completely.

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[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Really? "Yeah, boycott that jerk!! But not the silly rockets, I like em!"

Uh, no. Just, no.

[–] hiremenot_recruiter@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Destroying environments? Wasting money and fuel on false-promises (the Elon way)? I'm sure there's a tonne of other reasons.

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