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[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I asked you this already, don't be dishonest, with what internet? With what electricity?

Tell the press they’re there

What press my guy? They kicked aljazera out and bombed the AP building a few years ago with no evidence given. They've killed 23 journalists since the beginning of the month

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are reporters for Al Jazeera and other organizations in the Gaza strip. Charging a cell phone, using satellite internet, all things available to a government.

And if not the government, the UN in Red Cross have communication capabilities.

Israel kicked Al Jazeera out of there Israeli offices, Al Jazeera still has reporters in the Gaza strip, you just have to go to their web page and see their daily reports

Israel's killing a lot of journalists it's true, and there are journalists there because it's important, there are journalists there because their Palestinian they can't leave. Media is still getting out

https://www.aljazeera.com/tag/israel-palestine-conflict/

But let's take your point to its logical conclusion, how could Hamas tell us that they're unable to release hostages if they don't have access to the internet?

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are reporters for Al Jazeera and other organizations in the Gaza strip.

Yes, I didn't say they revoked the journalists citizenship. Israel bombed the AP building 2 years ago. Israel has bombed a bunch of hospitals and ambulances. Israel is killing humanitarian aid.

And if not the government, the UN in Red Cross have communication capabilities.

The UN wasn't able to get in for like 3 days after a ceasefire on the border was negotiated. These are not realistic suggestions.

But let’s take your point to its logical conclusion, how could Hamas tell us that they’re unable to release hostages if they don’t have access to the internet?

You only need wired electricity to (record a video and) tell us they're unable to release hostages. Showing a livestream of them releasing hostages requires mobile internet+electricity and requires at least one additional point of internet+(wired) electricity (the tower to broadcast the phone signal).

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll grant you the logistics behind a live stream would be interesting in a war zone.

But they do have the capability to communicate their activities, to get hostages to be picked up quickly by either Egypt, the Red Cross, or the UN.

If you can admit that then I can admit that dropping them off with the Red Cross and taking photos of the release and airdropping them to like 20 homies (or like 2 journalists) should provide enough evidence to be recovered in case of disaster.

But with how quickly disinformation is spread, with the asymmetric technical capabilities, with the fact that 2 hostages were just released safely with no issue, I don't blame Hamas for trying to do this as safely as possible.