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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Why does Hamas need Israel's agreement to release hostages? Can't they release them to the Egyptian border guards at Rafah border crossing in the South?

Even if they can't release them to Egypt, they could put them at the border, and tell the news agencies hey these are hostages being released, and put a live video feed on them standing at the border. I promise you Egypt would not leave them standing there indefinitely. The media coverage alone would get them to at least take the hostages over the border.

Hell, they could take them to a UN compound and release them into the custody of the UN.

[–] burchalka@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because that way they won't be able to extort goods and services for the hostages .. so sad seeing good hostage wasted...

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 16 points 1 year ago (14 children)

In this press release Hamas said they tried to release more prisoners but Israeli wouldn't accept them.

If Hamas is being genuine, there shouldn't be any tit for tat on a humanitarian hostage release.

I'm just trying to demonstrate how The Hamas statement feels demonstrably disingenuous. Because they have other options.

Hamas is not a good actor, the plight of the people in the Gaza strip does not helped by Hamas being such a bad actor.

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[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (30 children)

you make everything look simple. I'm slightly fascinated. then I get back into reality and I remember there's a cruel, blind war, and huge interests and plans going far over the borders of Isreal and Gaza.

the spiraling hate between parts? ah! silly them! "why they don't just..."

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[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why does Hamas need Israel’s agreement to release hostages?

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Israel is bombing the Rafah border crossing.

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[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember, the first casualty of war is the truth.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah - I find this especially fucked up, when I watched that Interview with that Hamas Leader that straight out denied that any Israelian civilians were attacked, he said that the attackers were instructed not to attack civilians - while on the other Hand there were First Person Videos that live-streamed the massacre into the world.

I guess Hamas got a lot of bad PR from killing those civilians, in their own „peer groups“.

while on the other Hand there were First Person Videos that live-streamed the massacre into the world.

I believe there were videos but have you seen any? Have they been verified by 3rd parties? if so can you link them?

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/21/hamas-says-israel-refused-to-receive-2-hostages-israel-calls-it-propaganda

Here's the Al Jazeera article covering basically the same thing, they even quote a politician saying Hamas could just release the prisoners to the Red Cross or the UN, if they didn't want anything in return.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


JERUSALEM, Oct 21 (Reuters) - Israel on Saturday described as "propaganda" a claim by Hamas that the militant group had wanted to release two more hostages on humanitarian grounds but that Israel declined to receive them.

Abu Ubaida, spokesman for Hamas' armed wing, said it informed Qatar of the group's intention to release the two additional people on Friday, the same day it freed Americans Judith Tai Ranaan and her daughter Natalie.

In a later statement, Abu Ubaida said Hamas was ready to free the two people on Sunday "using the same procedures" involved in the release of Judith and Natalie.

The Palestinian group captured around 210 people during its deadly assault in southern Israel on Oct. 7.

In a brief statement, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said: "We will not refer to false propaganda by Hamas."

The statement added: "We will continue to act in every way to return all the kidnapped and missing people home."


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