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[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We can help, we can even insist, that our Arab and European allies work to create a more effective, less corrupt and more legitimate Palestinian Authority in the West Bank that, after some transition in Gaza, could help govern there as well.

It feels off to call Israel European, both denying them nativehood and making them more sympathetic for white supremacists. Israel is not exclusively made up of Europeans and their descendants.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't look like they did call Israel European. They just mentioned European allies.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But who are they talking about if not Israel?

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Countries in Europe which support Israel.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Countries in Europe which support Israel are going to help rebuild the PA and the US will have some influence over how? That seems unlikely to me, but you could be right

[–] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps France, the original defense partner of Israel? Or Germany, who supplies all of Israel's navy?

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

France or Germany will work with Palestinians to create a more effective Palestinian Authority? I don’t really see that, but maybe.

If I were Palestinian, I would not want to work with more European colonial powers to help pacify the region, especially Germany, which is understandably going to always have complicated feelings of guilt and responsibility towards Israel

[–] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly, European powers and the US are going to work the Israel half of the problem and Saudi Arabia and Turkey can work the Palestinian half of their problem. With enough participation in the process, perhaps Iran will even shut up long enough for it to work.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

That… never occurred to me, because it’s imo such a bad idea, but I think you’re absolutely right, that that’s what the author meant. Thank you

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Irish and Italians were put down as minorities in the 1800s, until they got absorbed as "whites" by the racist assholes who decided they everybody should fight other minorities with darker skin. White supremacists are going to supremacize.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I guess I just don’t really see who this is for. White supremacists already tend to support Israel, but it’s harder to support them if you say they’re from elsewhere. I didn’t get an explicit white supremacist vibe from the rest of the piece, did I miss it or did this slip through?