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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's Canada. We aren't the smiling plucky canucks that the international community thinks we are. We're tired, boss. We have some of the worst incidence rates for opioid addiction in the world, the most expensive real estate, politicians that actually don't do anything except self-deal and play culture war games, a massive overpopulation crisis, a jobs crisis, a grocery cost crisis (all told, they call it a cost of living crisis). They literally invented MAID so that people with terminal cancer can take the painless path out, but now it's being discussed for literally anyone who is feeling mentally unwell.

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They literally invented MAID so that people with terminal cancer can take the painless path out, but now it’s being discussed for literally anyone who is feeling mentally unwell.

The people opposed to medically assisted death used this as an argument against it. I disagreed with them, didn't expect that to really happen.

I still don't disagree with its use here. If a person's life is not their own to take then they have no autonomy at all, but still.. it's jarring to see it actually being used this way.

[–] Tranus@programming.dev -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If a person's life is not their own to take then they have no autonomy at all

That's just not right. Autonomy isn't some absolute, all or nothing thing. If it was, then everybody would have "no autonomy at all", because we're not allowed to commit crimes.

Of the full range of possible actions, killing yourself is a relatively small portion of those. Considering that death eliminates all possible future actions, I'd argue that preventing a suicide (of a person that's not dying anyway) actually preserves more autonomy than the alternative.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes it is and not being allowed to harm innocent people isn't a violation of your autonomy and never was. Grow the fuck up.

Considering that death eliminates all possible future actions

Highly debatable

[–] patchw3rk@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the most expensive real estate

source needed.

[–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dude look at Toronto its awful, and that's just one example

[–] patchw3rk@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

You need to look at the cost of real estate outside of this country.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

That’s not the point.