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[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

what is to be learned from "rah rah sis boom bah"?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I've explained my point above several times already, I don't see the point of repeating myself.

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

this is what I mean by cheerleaderism, either for or against, either we say, yay starbucks union or boo starbucks union, and no critical analysis is ever made, nothing is learned. its as if the outcome is based on positivity, and that if we can shield the fragile starbucks babies from any and all criticism they'll grow up to be big and strong.

"just support them" as if me having positive or negative thoughts about them in my head, by myself in my house will effect anyone's life. I think it comes from the internet, so its not surprising to see these strange unions-by-tweet where it's just random people who work for the same megacorp just saying "let's a do a union like in the movies woohoo" and then kind of do some union like stuff at maybe 5 stores and then nothing happens and the union dissolves a few years later. It's like a new trendy hashtag. I imagine any real union activist or leader who approaches them, would be greeted with boos immediately as he would not be all totes mcgoats super supportive right off the bat, and say every little thing they did was awesome and special and wonderful and how great they all are for breathing air and drinking water

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If a Vanguard existed it could work towards bringing together these union workers and coffee farmers. The problem is that it does not seem like something a Starbucks union would even find interesting or empowering.

This is part of the problem. Some workers rely on the exploitation of other workers. How can this be reconciled? This is why I yawn when the news about Starbucks unions gets around. No one has the answers. I've even asked Starbucks workers about this specifically. They just want a better wage. They aren't looking to leverage the political power of their labor to promote solidarity much less consequencial action.

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

minimum wage, universal healthcare, and affordable housing would be way better for these people than any dumb corporate union

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