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I don't understand these corporate wide unions. Let's say we develop the worlds most awesome union at starbucks then what? Starbucks is just a great place to work now? that's it? Not a food service union or baristas union? just starbucks? What happens if starbucks goes out of business no more union? So all this work was for nothing? the idea being that people will want to be an entry level starbucks employee for the rest of their life?
only about 300k people work for starbucks, and management isn't in the union right? so were talking maybe 100k people, in temporary jobs none of them plan to keep for very long. If they do stay they'll be promoted to management and then would therefore leave the union. Whats assistant manager take 1 year maybe 2 until youre promoted?
Not to mention luxury coffee shops being the most useless thing on planet earth. honestly how many people can tell the difference in a blind taste test between starbucks and freeze dried instant coffee? I find it very strange that these corporate unions are also happening in companies normally thought of as leftish, starbucks, amazon, tesla, hipster type techie companies. Striking works because the competition is using union labor and you're not ,so you have to deal with strikes while they dont. intercorporate unions dont make any sense, the only person it could possibly benefit would be someone who plans to work an entry level position at starbucks for the rest of their lives, I couldn't imagine a greater nightmare
[Disclaimer: I'm a coffee snob]
Most people who go to Starbucks would probably not be able to tell if they're drinking specialty coffee or grocery store coffee, my impression is that they don't go there to get great coffee, but out of convenience. Chains like Starbucks are the fast food equivalent in the coffee world. I wouldn't go to a Starbucks myself, if I'm on a long trip I love stopping by a good coffee shop where they serve specialty coffee. "Luxury coffee shops" (local coffee shops) have a place in our society, in my opinion international coffee shop chains do not.
I'm a total coffee addict too I drink a pot a day, I consider starbucks more like a teenage ice cream shop though, their drip coffee is good, but I usually go to dunkin for their xtra large cups, but starbucks does light roast coffee which you can't find anywhere and it's like 30 cents more a cup so i'll go there sometimes for that. If i do blow money on something like a latte I'll go to starbucks. but i dont think ive been there in maybe 3 years? I used to get the beans back when I ground my own. Now i just stick to folgers and maxwell house, don't even bother putting sugar in it anymore . Id never get beans or get a latte at mcdonalds, even though I go there just for their $1 any size coffee all the time.
However Starbucks also sells ice cream drinks that the teenagers love because they have caffeine and are more "adult" than a giant milkshake. So starbucks became a trendy place for suburban white teens to hangout, mostly just because it was one of only three stores in the whole town, but also because it was a legal drug for teens, so it became a cool place for teenage white girls to eat ice cream and hangout. Coffeeshops in europe have a whole long storied traditios of intellectuals, poets, and political history etc but not in America it's just a burger joint that focuses on coffee, maybe there is some genuine cultural crossover there, but its mostly about selling ice cream to suburban teenage white girls