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This isn't meant to start a war in the comments.

I have been thinking... Platforms that advertise encryption and unmatched privacy have almost always been used by bad actors that ruin it for everyone else. This leads to some sort of middle ground being set up that ends up being further from privacy than we'd like it to be.

I see the benefits of both situations, and am left wondering if we can even survive as a society if we were to have absolute privacy.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Edit:

I'm asking how we can navigate this conundrum in order to reach a common ground where we do NOT have to give up our precious privacy in exchange for security.

Nothing else. I'm sorry if my post didn't reflect that.

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[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re telling you that these “private” spaces are allowing for child exploitation because it triggers exactly the thoughts you’re having now.

“Oh I don’t want that, I guess I’ll give up my privacy”

It’s an excuse. Apple had client side image scanning, cutting through ALL privacy. The program basically found 0 child porn images, but instantly that it existed, governments wanted to use it to censor images they didn’t like.

It’s a lie, it always has been. “Won’t people please think of the children” has been used to create horrendous lies of policy since the beginning of time.

You know what existed before these services? The same evil that existed after them.

We can ban knives because a few people stab others with them, but ultimately if your goal is to stab someone, you’ll use what you have available. Perhaps a fork? And society will no longer have knives, but is that actually a reasonable answer? I mean there are no knives allowed in prisons, and they still make decent shanks .

Killing privacy to solve child exploitation is just a nice lie they sell you to convince you that your privacy doesn’t matter. Facebook has zero privacy and it’s currently the biggest distributor of child porn. It’s a huge problem, and clearly the lack of privacy didn’t solve it like they said it would.

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True that.

Also, it's kind of weird how we know that these corporations and governments do this, yet somehow they keep getting away with it...

Like, what the hell?

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Because they’re distracting you with bullshite problems.

For example, gay marriage. There’s a simple answer that appease everyone….. the government doesn’t regulate marriage, they regulate “civil unions”

You just change all the official paperwork to call everyone’s “marriage” a civil union and let the people decide if they want to call it a marriage or not. Who the fuck cares?

But no, they made it a culture war. “The gays are destroying society and they’re gonna make our kids gay” Vs “They are denying the gays marriage and next they’re going to start assassinating them”

Left or right, they both crave power and are selling us out for it.