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[–] mwalimu@baraza.africa 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

to justify a massive western military presence that is often, even usually, not invited but imposed.

You do not understand my point. I am not against China nor am I pro-United States. I am for Africa to make their own practical choices for their own dignified progress. Part of that may be kicking all these bases out. It could also be working with some and not others. No simple straight jacket answer.

This is why it is sickening to see someone come and say NATO looked down up you, but China not so much, er go, China is your better option. Like, that is simplistic dichotomy which I have been repeating all morning. Whether China has a smaller base than US, so what, to a Somali? Is it enough to know China will kill you less faster than the US? why can't Somali focus on building their security infrastructure? But that is not a perspective you have tried to integrate in your work because you are obsessed with China replacing America, and that tired dichotomy.

[–] Soselin@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You didn’t respond to what I wrote.

China is not imposing a military base, it was invited in to be a balance against US domination.

It’s not ideal but it’s not imperialism, it’s a move by the Somali government to counter the massive western presence.

Is this computing?

I’m sure Somali would prefer to have no military bases but since that option isn’t available to them, bases are imposed by the west, they’d prefer to also have China there and not just America.

This is playing out across Africa in terms of investment.

If you’re not factoring in balance of power geopolitics to understand why China is being welcomed then you’re just making anti-China noises.

Africa is inviting China in as a counter to centuries of western militaristic dominance. This is easy to understand.

I’m sure Africa would prefer to not have either but they certainly prefer to not only have the west. Since the west is by far the overwhelming military presence that refuses to leave, it’s only due to this that Africa wants to invite China in as a balance.

It’s their least bad option available to them and that is due to centuries of and continuing western military domination.