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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Kampf is pronounced "comf" does that mean the English words, "comfy" or "comfortable" come from the German word for "struggle"?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, not at all.

To be fair, it only really works with the american accent, where the 'o' in comfortable gets pronaunced a bit like an a. In British english it leans more to 'u'.

Comfortable is from latin 'to strengthen or to help'. Com (cum) Force (forte) (maybe the british pronounciation is more correct because of the latin 'cum' :).

German Kampf is related to camp, which would mean a military kamp, but also a battle. It gets translated to 'struggle' in English, but 'My Battle' or 'My Fight' would be more correct, albeit less litererary pleasing.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, okay. I was wondering if it was a silly reason like, "it's a struggle to do anything when you're comfy" or something like that.

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a rule, when speculating etymological relations, always look at the spelling rather than the pronunciation, since the latter tends to change a lot more quickly. English, of course, is an extreme case of this; during the Great Vowel Shift spellings stayed much the same while most vowels changed to the point of becoming unrecognisable. This is the main reason why English spelling makes no sense.

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Remember to always provide context when describing pronunciation in English. The letter u may be realised /jʉw/ ("use"), /ʉw/ ("rule"), /ɵ/ ("put") and /ʌ/ ("cut"), of which only the last one is a valid approximation.