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An Alabama woman was imprisoned for ‘endangering’ her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2023
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Did you read the article?
Pretty sure a child being raised in foster care is safer than one dying in the womb from narcotics poisoning.
Who conducted the tests? What is the false positive rate? Was retesting done to ensure accuracy? Does CPS get to choose the testing labs, maybe the ones that get the results that they want? Did the sample have identification on it that a manager at the testing center could trace to the person?
I will start believing the criminal justice system the day I don't read weekly stories of missing body cam footage.
I don't know but none of that is what we were discussing.
I see. Well clearly this police department deserves your blind faith.
What does any of this have to do with the police department? Do you have a response that is actually tangentially related to my comment?
Lmao pretend you can't even fathom what he meant, that the system is rigged and that they got the result they wanted because the US is seemingly inherently corrupt.
Nonetheless it's no surprise, this woman would've needed help and care. There's only speculation that could be done regarding circumstances, but I think it boils down to the "pro life" - laws being ironic
I know exactly what they meant. What I don't know is how it's related to what I said.
We can have a conversation about how our prison systems treat prisoners. Which we'll likely agree on
Or we can have a conversation about police abuse of power, which we'll probably also agree on.
Or we can have a conversation about our broken criminal justice system, which seems boring because again, we'd probably just agree.
Or we can have a conversation about whether pregnant mothers, in general, should be allowed to be imprisoned for attempting to kill their unborn children, but it seems like people just want to derail the conversation with irrelevant arguments.
But you go on with ya bad self, Mr. Straw Man.
No, your "red thread" was that it was just to take the baby away with cps(?) because she either did or does narcotics. And somehow you feel it is derailing to even take any question outside the narrow scope of it.
It is what people are discussing, it is a health issue. Both addiction and abortion are.
I don't know what a "red thread" is.
Yes that's correct, good job.
Except it's not "outside the narrow scope", it's got nothing to do with my statement. And you know that you can't argue with my statement so the only way you can "win" is to argue about something else entirely.
It is not what I was discussing, nor was it what the person I replied to was discussing.
Not interested in winning, is this projection? If so, change the mindset. Why are you so belittling? Read of the appeal to ridicule.
And if you're not interested, not answering only means one part simply cba
I don't know who The Interlocutor is. Sounds like a comic book villain.
So weird that you replied so many hours before my post.
Safer physically? Maybe. Questionable give the state of our foster care system. It's almost never a better alternative. 15 years for that is vile.
Right, so, death is better than foster care. Noted.
I highly encourage you to talk to some of them and educate yourself. Go read some threads about the abuse they experience.
I don't know why I'm still engaging with someone that thinks 15 years for doing drugs while pregnant is even remotely acceptable. Especially since it's clear they didn't give a shit about the baby at the end of the day. I guess I just hope that some of you will still come around and realize that women are humans who fuck up and we don't deserve to be held ransom every time some dipshit knocks us up.
If you do feel this strongly about babies then I hope we can at least agree that child support starts at conception and men that endanger babies by impregnating drug addicts should be in prison with them.
I don't know why I'm engaging with someone who insists on misrepresenting my statements, so let me do a favor for the both of us and block you, goodbye 👋