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[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, theres certainly some commonality, between the two. Its a general needs problem with the Republic idea getting up in Australia though:

  • We are to all intents and purposes an independent nation. I would cite the fact that we are far more dependent on the US than the UK as a sign of our independence from our notional parent state (the UK). So there is no improvement, perceived or real, in driving further separation.

  • Unlike other countries who approach the question of independence we have peaceful and extremely friendly relations with the UK. Not to mention close family ties between the country's.

  • The idea of Republics around the world are sufferring from a reputation problem. The abuse of the concept by all manner of abhorrent 'leaders' over the 20th century and continuing in this century has diminished the idea of freedom through the creation of a Republic. A key issue is Presidents have seemed to be able to gain and retain too much power, then if they're able to get the military on side, well, at what point do we stop calling it a Republic? Again i only mean it has a reputational problem, not that, that would happen in Australia.

Your right about the City/Country divide.

I think this referendum was also a reiteration of the importance of having regard to people's self interest. The Yes camp didn't connect the Voice to how it will benefit everyone in the nation. While the No camp had no qualms about heaping theoretical loss at the doors of all self interested Australians. (I do not mean greedy btw, i only mean self interested).