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"Religion of Peace" my Ass
fucking Terrorists
If terrorists decided to use "America" as branding, then saying "home of the brave my ass" would be as equally invalid a statement.
It's not a random coincidence. Islam, like Christianity, has plenty of calls to violence in scripture and culture.
For example, see article 7 of the Hamas founding charter:
Other terror organizations like Boko Haram and Al Quaeda similarly quote other parts from the Quran. Because they can, because it's there.
So for your analogy to work, we would have to assume "America" has some inherently violent parts at it's core. Which it probably does.
In a true "Religion of Peace", extremists would have to invent things, not bend things, to justify violence.
Obligatory disclaimer, the overwhelming majority of Muslims (and Christians) are peaceful, decent people.
But they don't, so you argument is invalid.
... that doesn't invalidate my point at all - their choice of religious affiliation does not define the religion. Just as in my example, the theoretical "Terrorists of America" don't get to define what American values are, just because of their name. A counter group could take a similar "America" themed name with completely opposite values and objectives and it wouldn't mean jack shit.
Ohhhh, we're discussing hypotheticals, sorry I thought you were serious.
Because then for sure you would have taken in consideration that religious affiliation, nationality and branding are pretty different things. The level of psychological involvement and the way these elements interact and define ones individual structure is quite incomparable. Usually for religious people (especially fundamenlists) religion does define their personal values, morality an so on. This IS the purpose of religion after all.
And then of course you would have taken in consideration that this is a conflict with mainly a religious conflict. Although you can say palestinians fight mainly for their land the other Muslim countries that support them have also religious motives.
And of course it's a fact that they didn't choose to take another religious affiliation or as you say a different brand.
I don't wish to be cruel or unpleasant and i appreciate the reply, but this really doesnt grasp what i outlined before
Ok, then maybe I'm at fault and I didn't understand what you were trying to say.
Reasonable. Im sure my assertion wasnt 100% watertight
No they are just animals, the religion part is just an excuse these pathetic animals use to justify their barbaric actions.
Which country has the most school shootings?
Classic whataboutism.
The answer is america, and 2 things can be bad at once.
What sort of reply is that to what he said?
When someone calls the USA out on their school shootings, do you then bring up Ukraine with many more dead?
An honest one. There's violence everywhere. At least Palestinians and Israelis are fighting each other over land. In America you get shot over a cheeseburger or because someone else can't get laid.
No, I say "yeah it's unacceptable."
He vents his frustration about religions. While yes, violence is everywhere, it makes a ton of difference if there are < 1 homicides per 100'000 or, for example, 7. Or regarding religions: some outright want you to be violent.
Given how many knive attacks there are, it'd probably be france if they had similar access to guns
Sounds like gun control works then. Thanks for the support!
I... have never said anything against gun control?
45 this year?