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Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.

The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This doesn't make any damn sense. No one elected the proudboys to run the entire gov. The Palestinians did with Hamas. You're acting like it's a small group, when it's not. A majority of Palestinians elected Hamas to represent them, and they support it.

Now you can have the debate of is Israel the cause and is this response equal or if this was all a setup to start the war, but don't act like Hamas is a minority and the people don't support them.

[–] fed0sine@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

If I understand correctly, Hamas won their majority of parliamentary seats of Gaza's government despite only having 1/3rd of the population casting votes for them.

Source: this YouTube video by Task & Purpose (just found this channel and this video covering the conflict over the last few days seems remarkably unemotional and mostly unbiased.)

https://youtu.be/lbSFJaFuWU0?si=ITFEngYEbsySW1nm&t=28m43s

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Also, that election was 17 years ago...

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah but nobody wants to pick up a book.

In 94 we (royal) almost had peace. In '93 The Oslo accords promised Palestinians self governance in 5 years. Israel under Rabin and Abbas with the PLO had an agreement for Palestine to be run by the PA in the mean time.

I dk if it was more Abbas or Arafat but one of the two along with Rabin even pulled Israeli troops out of occupied Palestine and gave it back as part of the peace agreement, marking the most significant step towards peace we will see.

But then Rabin was assassinated in 95 by a zionist. Israel turns over to Netanyahu. Netanyahu refuses to meet with Arafat.

Oslo II fell apart as the US refused to recognize Hamas (who had popular support), preferring the secular Fatah (PA). Whats the point in holding an election if it wont be recognized anyways? Hamas doesn't enter the '96 race.

At some point Netanyahu starts funding Hamas knowing that he can also pit Hamas against the Fatah. Netanyahu will fund Hamas on multiple occasions throughout the 90's and 2000's.

In '97 the US declares Hamas a terrorist group, ending any chance of an election that satisfies the people.

Hamas wins the '06 election

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot to mention that, prior to Rabin's assassination, Netanyahu was part of Likud demonstrations that literally called for Rabin's death for making peace.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oof. A friend of a friend who was studying in Israel cried when Netanyahu was elected and I feel like I increasingly understand why

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah. When I learned about that, I Was pretty shocked. The guy encouraging stochastic terrorism and succeeding in getting a PM murdered was elected PM, himself. Though, it makes his actions and the utter lack of progress towards peace make complete sense; it's willful.

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