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[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah you got me there. They had the capability to plan and execute a military operation with many moving parts without being smart. Monekys with typewriters, broken clocks twice a day and all that. Probably why they died on their operation, too. Saw people with guns and started shooting, not realizing they were on the same side. Good point, upvote for you.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You don't need brains to pull a trigger...You only need a finger. Others plan.

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another great point. Let's plan and draft up these top secret documents, and not train the soldier to the specifics of the operation, because we can just give him the documents to take with him. That way, while they're driving their jeeps and motorbikes and shooting rifles, they can take time in enemy territory to review the plan on the fly. Hopefully that idiot can read, though!

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Part of it is likely that if they trained the soldiers in the plan beforehand, they risked leaks,

Now, we know there were leaks, and warnings to Netanyahu that he ignored, but Hamas likely didn't know that he would straight up ignore the threat.

There's also the issue of compartmentalization. Hamas operates in cells, because that makes them harder to kill in air strikes. They're spread out, partially disorganized, and try to keep communication between them to paper or in person. All to keep Israel from spying on them.

It's not a stretch to think that the foot soldiers were handed these papers half an hour before they were set to go. It's a sloppy way to run an op, but the op was mass murder and kidnapping, so I'm okay with them being less efficient than they could have been.

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think it overcomes reasonable doubt in this situation, especially given the widespread propaganda surrounding the narrative that hamas is killing children with no supporting evidence. My opinion is that critical thinking affords the benefit of the doubt to this not being accurate in this case.

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the people with brains just gave them the documents, and sent them to battle? Are you sure those brains aren't flawed?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you taking notes on a criminal fu*kin conspiracy?

[–] tsz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No but it sounds like you've reasoned this out on an etch a sketch.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh this guy again TROLL ALERT DON'T ENGAGE

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago

You stalking me now sweetie?

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They weren't all planners. You realize that some of them did the planning, right? And that some of them are not incredibly smart and can't commit multiple maps to memory and maybe want to bring one with themselves just in case?

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not convinced. It is more likely that Israel is trying to invent more justification for genocide. Throw all the italics around that you want, it doesn't overcome reasonable doubt.

The document is too prestine. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a soldier to carry that where it could be taken by an enemy. Somehow they're smart enough to carry out these coordinated attacks, but are too dumb to memorize their role for the supposedly top secret operation.