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Tensions spill across universities like Columbia and Harvard as students on each side accuse the other of a kind of bloodlust

To one side, Columbia students stood silently, wrapped in the blue and white of Israel as they gripped pictures of the murdered and abducted. Across the grass and brick divide, a slightly larger cohort of students chanted “Free, free Palestine.”

The faultline between the two ran along the claim by each that the other was pursuing a kind of bloodlust – a charge that has divided university campuses across America in the wake of the bloody Hamas attack on Israeli communities and Israel’s ongoing military assault on Gaza.

Reactions within US universities to the killing of at least 1,300 Israelis and the abduction of about 100 more have swung from celebration of the Hamas assault as a legitimate act of resistance to occupation to condemnation along with a demand that it not be used to ignore the deaths of Palestinians killed in Israel’s retaliation on Gaza.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

On the one hand, it's a favorite conspiracy among the right-wing to scream about the "internationalist cabal of Jewish globalist bankers who control the world!"

But then you read something like that, and it does seem suspicious. Like why would "leading financial figures" care who Harvard students support? And who would think putting their personal info on a fucking truck is acceptable?

Note: I am absolutely not saying or espousing any theory that the Jews control the world or anything. But I think that in a vacuum, absent any outside context, it seems weirdly coincidental for Wall Street to care if a bunch of college students blame Israel or for their information to be publicly broadcast.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it's black it's called a gang, If it's Italian it's the mob, if it's Latino it's the cartel, BUT if it's jewish, it's a coincidence and should never be talked about.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's the problem with the right wing conspiracy theories. They all just blame the "Jews" for being elite and evil. If a group of people who happen to be Jewish are conspiring to control money and politics, it doesn't mean the whole ethnicity is in on it. Their ethnicity and religion are irrelevant to the fact that they are just power hungry assholes.

That's like blaming all of the Italians for everything the mafia does.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah you are right, but we have to acknowledge that there's a red of wealthy men bounded by familiar and ethnic ties, who use that money to influence events. All Jews? Off course not, it would be the same as you point out, all Latinos or all Italians or all black people.

The key here is that accountability should exist for these groups, who are practically outside the law in virtue of their wealth, and they escape any criticism, covering themselves behind their people, any valid criticism gets shut down as antisemitism, and that is by design.

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

It's not really that Israel is Jewish, it's that Israel is a strategic and financial asset to Western liberalism. And students at Ivy League schools are going to face more pressure to kowtow as they will eventually participate in executive political and financial institutions. Power doesn't demand a grand conspiracy to maintain itself.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with conspiracy theories is how unsure one must be of another's motives: from where you're sitting you think I'm sealioning; from my perspective you're painting with a really broad brush.

Perhaps my point wasn't clear enough so let me try to rephrase it: this is the exact kind of activity that adds fuel to right-wing anti-Semitism. I fully expect to hear on next week's Knowledge Fight Alex Jones using this to fuel his "~~Jews~~ Globalists control the world!" narrative.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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