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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm less optimistic than you, I think we will continue to increase fossil fuel usage, even though millions are dying and being displaced.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as the income stream isnt threatened either by unrest, mass deaths, or hardware malfunctioning, expect business as usual.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

That's the kind of logic I expect to see in the coming decades.

People will argue the details, debate the topics, defend finances and the economy .... all while the world falls apart and people die, are actively dying or will live shorter lives.

Humanity will fade into obscurity as we all fight with one another.

[–] PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah.

Thats for sure. Many finance analysts predict 3 digit oil prices.

Investments will ramp up once demand puts pressure on the price.

And fossil fuel industry will be the most profitable one again.

WE CANT EXPECT OUR SYSTEM TO CHANGE WITHOUT CHANGING THE SYSTEM.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What will we need all those fossil fuels for? Surely, at some point in the early 2030's, as capex for PV/wind turbines/heat pumps/batteries decreases and opex remains low, most people will have realized that fossil fuels are personally costing them money. The only business remaining may be plastics rather than electricity and heat. Granted, it's entirely possible fossil fuel companies successfully double down on plastics (which is what many are planning already).

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, thanks to citizens united and "lobbying", oil companies control the US, and therefore the world. So no, I don't expect to see much change.