@Ooops @Wilshire @Candelestine @bstix I stopped reading after a few words. The bucket was already full. The situation in Ukraine was created with the strong support of the western governments. They earned money with russia and never told their own citizens about the massive threat, russians are posing to the security of everyone! It is not a choice if and how much to support Ukraine. It is an obligation to do it. If Ukraine was allowed in Nato, there would be no bloodshed.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Then I will make this shorter this time:

You are lying. You lie to us and to yourself. You can look up who actually financed Russia as trade data is publically available. Spoiler (because I know you will not look up actual facts, just like you never looked up the Budapest Memorandum and stopped reading when I even gave you a link to it's content): the countries that you pretend financed Russia actually cost them money, those smart countries opposing Russia actually financed them, often even delivered weapon to them -and yes, that includes Ukraine up until 2020-.

If Ukraine would be allowed in NATO now, that would be just an excuse for a defensive union to go fight a war. If they would have been in NATO earlier, yeah that would have worked. But then again you will simply lie and tell the fairy tale of how evil Western countries blocked them. When in reality Ukraine made several U-turn if or if not they want to join within less than 2 years while also having no support for joining in the country (how many months did the parliament go on strike to protest against a pro-NATO move again?).

But you are right, constantly explaining you the reality and why you are just bubbling none-sensical proipaganda makes no sense indeed. So welcome to my blocklist.