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[–] luchuan@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I wonder if they won't boot Hungary from the EU. It's an "authoritarian democracy" (ie they don't openly accuse the ruling party of cheating, they just don't like the outcome) according to one of the human rights concern troll groups. I believe their supreme court ruled Hungarian law supercedes EU law (that might be Poland that had this ruling, some Polish liberal malded as she told me about this and I was too hammered to care) and now the EU is withholding funds to Hungary, and Hungary blocks some of the anti China and pro Ukraine nonsense.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is, by Viktor Orban's own words, an "illiberal democracy". This is a contradiction, voting without rights is hollow. He has his boot on the neck of the press, dissident NGO's are labeled a "national security risk", and LGBTQ people are targeted.

[–] Soselin@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

How does this differ from a liberal democracy?

I think he just means it's a regular western style democracy, with opposition limited to business friendly parties and popular consent manufactured through domination of the media, but they openly hate gay people.

For example, what's one thing you can criticize Orban for in terms of voting rights that isn't also happening in the USA or the UK? It's just the opposition to gay pride parades and ranting about "the homosexual agenda" and dog whistling about "traditional family values", that's what he means. He's basically the GOP or Berlusconi. It's not actually very out of step with the west, he's just open about it in a way that makes mainstream liberals uncomfortable because they care about appearances.

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