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The Pentagon said Tuesday that it overestimated the value of the weapons it has sent to Ukraine by $6.2 billion over the past two years. The war has been an incredible grift on American taxpayers. (apnews.com)

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We gave resources we have in abundance and won't miss to a committed defense force who has defeated the extended and then domestic military reach of Russia. It didn't cost Americans anything, bodily or economically. The price of eggs went up because of corporate profiteering, not because we spent less than 4% of our bloated military budget defeating Russia by proxy.

Secondly, you're making a false equivalence. Appreciating that Americans are not dying while removing a real threat does not mean that you do not appreciate and value the Ukrainians who are making sacrifices.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Secondly, you’re making a false equivalence. Appreciating that Americans are not dying while removing a real threat does not mean that you do not appreciate and value the Ukrainians who are making sacrifices.

100% bullshit. From a humanitarian perspective, one in which there is no difference in value between an American life and a Ukrainian life, the fact that no Americans died because the meat grinder is in Ukraine and killing almost-exclusively slavs is a ridiculous thing to tout. It's not an accomplishment to not lose your own people when it's a proxy war, you're just sending a different population to be slaughtered!

Can you even imagine -- in a world where China was actually backing Russia -- China boasting about doing immense economic damage to NATO without sacrificing any Chinese? That would be a fucked up way to evaluate it compared to considering the human cost apart from national lines, even just on "your own side."

This shit is why predditors love to say "I don't like Hitler, but at least he didn't kill his own people" (ignoring that he did just like we're ignoring Americans actually have been killed in Ukraine). Ultimately, the chauvinism is as bad as it ever was, it's just dressed up with more false "we see you, we hear you" pretenses about the people being killed.