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The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

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[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The reports I've read claim that around 1,000 Hamas terrorist entered Israel. The IDF claims to have recovered the bodies of about 1,500 terrorists inside Israel. Given that this is an active conflict, it's not surprising that the numbers don't line up but they're of the same order of magnitude.

Since Hamas has hostages it's clear that at least some of those terrorists made it back to Gaza. It's also clear that the IDF has, by now, killed the vast majority of the terrorists who carried out these acts.

So who is currently being targeted by IDF ordinance?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My guess is the operation being carried out is to close the border with Egypt to establish full access control in and out of Gaza. Any other ops being carried out will either be hostage rescue, targeted attempts at black bagging participants and leaders of the attacks, or causing general mayhem to keep Hamas from being able to coordinate with itself for long enough to mount a counteroperation.

The end goal will be twofold, 1) gain customs control over all points of entry to the strip to neuter Hamas' ability to keep importing rockets and the parts to make their own, 2) sweep the strip for the leaders of the attack for as public and humiliating a comupence as can be legally dropped on them, and probably beyond that too. This attack put a serious black eye on Israel's hawks claiming they're the faction for tighter security that will keep the Israeli people safe, Bibi is probably seeing enough red that it's a sign of officials intervening against his worst reflexes that we're not witnessing a Srebenica scenario in Gaza right now.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

They may move to tactics like that eventually but for now it's artillery and airstrikes. Netanyahu threatened to bomb Gaza to rubble and it looks like he's carrying that out.

I don't see anything targeted about the current retaliation; what we're hearing and seeing now is most consistent with a scorched earth policy.

[–] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

considering gaza is 40% kids under 14..... children.

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well given that the average age in Palestine is 18 I would guess children

[–] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud -4 points 1 year ago

@nednobbins Palestinian children, as usual

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nednobbins@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you claiming that all of Gaza is Hamas?

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously not. You asked who is being targeted. And the answer is Hamas.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're not actually arguing that the IDF is not committing massive war crimes, you're just saying you don't care?

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I didnt argue anything. Please reread the thread. You asked a question, and I answered it.