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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

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[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas has made it clear that taking down the wall would result in tens of thousands of dead Israelis. It's impossible to negotiate with an adversary which has vowed your demise at any price.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But from Hamas' side, the exact same thing is true about Israel.

[–] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think it’s clear that you’re soundly in the pro Palestine camp after they murdered hundreds of Israelis. You find a way to justify that which works for you, that’s your business, it isn’t reflective of reality, it’s just your take on an issue that goes beyond your age by a number of decades.

If you’re purely in defense of one group or the other here, you’re just wrong and what’s worse is you’re feeding into the exact narratives each group is desperate to push.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that just committed the 3rd largest terrorist attack in human history. Israel is committing war crimes in retaliation and will no doubt invade and occupy Gaza which will cause thousands more deaths.

The complexities of this geopolitical issue have gone well beyond ‘this is all Israel’s fault, this is all Palestines fault’. If you can’t get past that, you’re just another ignorant fuck spewing half baked ideas on the internet that has no real idea what they’re talking about.

That sort of rhetoric is better served on twitter, not here.

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

The problem with your comment is that it assumes that this whole thing started with the Hamas attack. Go back in time 2 weeks and your whole argument applies with the sides swapped.

Israel has been killing Palestinians for decades. Hamas did what it did in response to that.

Like get some fucking context. Palestinian innocents died and got injured in much MUCH larger numbers than Israel for a very long time.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm pro-Palestinian people. I don't support Hamas and I think their tactics are bad and they can't butcher civilians.

You are replying to a person you think I am, not who I am.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that just committed the 3rd largest terrorist attack in human history

Yeah but that list changes a lot if you count what Israel has done to Palestinians. When you remove that from the picture, you skew reality.

I don't have Twitter, and will never have Twitter, so get used to me being around here. Cheers.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a power imbalance. Israel could kill everyone in Gaza, with or without the wall. Taking down the wall would result in too many Palestinians killing too many innocent Israelis, so it will never happen. Nor should it.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And not taking it down will soon result in 2 million dead Palestinians.