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[–] Solarius@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's crazy dude. I've been thinking about this a lot and I just can't find justification for it. I kind of understand where the Hexbear people are coming from sometimes but then they'll have insane takes like this. They always claim to be pro minority anti government whatever but how can you justify mass murder and rape of civilians? I understand the history between Palestine and Israel and I acknowledge Israel's government has committed dozens of atrocities but there's such a massive difference between a corrupt government/military and the people living under it. People cite the festival's proximity to an internment camp like the people attending the festival even necessarily knew about it, or as if they were at all responsible for choosing the location.

Even the first comment in the screenshot is trying to minimize it by just calling it a "shooting" when there's purportedly videos of Hamas kidnapping and raping people. It just seems so arbitrary which side they're in favor of, and once they've decided they blatantly ignore any actions of extremists and brush it off as "they had it coming" for things a government has been doing long since before they were even born.

I guess it's easier to cheer such an atrocity when you're separated by an ocean and don't even see them as people, just some kind of villainous people who all hate Palestine. I'm sure the tankies would change their tune really quick if a group from Palestine, Russia, or China rolled up in their neighborhood to commit atrocities in the name of war and reparations.

Then they have the audacity to look at a similar situation via Ukraine/Russia and somehow always come to the conclusion that Ukraine are the baddies even though they've been having their land stolen for years and Russia quite literally attacked them first. The parallels between Russia/Ukraine and Palestine/Israel are so similar that it's mindboggling the tankies support one and not the other.

I genuinely wish I could understand where they're coming from but their discussions are always filled with so much hate and attempted humor that they just end up parroting their little memes and quips when talking about actual wars and genocide.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Despite their love of theory, Tankies operate on an incredibly simple process: America bad. America hate X. X Good.

  • America Bad

  • America hate Hamas

  • Hamas Good

These atrocities are necessary to destroy the US, innocents be damned. You can try to explain to them that if their preferred combatant won, they themselves would be executed for being queer, but they will simply ignore you. Tankies, like all extremists, are lonely people who lack friends or social life, so instead of looking inward in an attempt to improve themselves, they blame the world, latching onto communities that encourage such bigotry, that tell them that 'They're not wrong or hateful, it's the world that's wrong and hateful'