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I like how Americans are treated like some special class. As if the US hasn’t had collateral damage in their attacks that harm citizens of other countries. The US just uses it as a very weak reason to get more involved…
Germany, France and Spain also have killed and kidnapped citizens. Their newspapers are reporting similar stories on their citizens, which is the reason the EU froze all the humanitarian aid to Palestine.
And those numbers will go up. All those hostages are not Israeli
Like the WTC this is truly an international incident.
You may wish to rephrase that...
It's technically true either way, but yeah that doesn't read well and definitely wasn't the intent.
I agree, it is technically true. Sorry if I sounded too nitpicking, I've just come back from a week with no internet access /news so for a moment I thought you were talking about all of them doing it during the events of the last few days!
Maybe don't go on vacation in an apartheid state?
Really, victim blaming?
Get out of here with that low quality crap.
What's low quality is using misapplied therapy speak to try to shut down a conversation.
It's not victim blaming. It's a fucking war zone. There are US citizens in Palestine right now stealing Palestinian houses. How are the Palestinians supposed to know who's who? Stay the fuck out of the active war zone if you don't belong there. It's not like the Palestinians who don't have a choice, people on vacation 100% had a choice.
"ViCTiM bLAmINg". The victims are the Palestinians. Get the fuck outa here.
Sure that's a reason to kidnap kids. Congrats
If the vacation is taxed then isn't the vacationer effectively funding the apartheid state?
Really? They deserved it? That's what you got?
Do children deserve it? no. Did the parents of those children put them in that situation? yes.
But tell me, where do you draw the line? Murder is bad but funding a murderous government isn't? How many steps do you have to be from the hitman before your conscious is clear?
And are you seriously out here pulling a "think of the children" as if an apartheid state is just super cool and nice to children? Do you need to refresh yourself on what apartheid means? I'll wait
Edit: OP never comes back to explain why murdering 1 Israeli child is worse than murdering thousands of Palestinian children. They don't have an answer, they have talking points.
Barbaric terrorism, raping, murder, mutilation, parading dead bodies down the street, can not be justified by anything. Sorry for you if you think differently.
You're literally doing it right now. You fully acknowledge that Israel is an apartheid state but you're not acknowledging anything they've done wrong.
For the people who don't get it, Israel was established in the 40's when the US and British took the land from the native Palestinians and created Israel as a state for the jewish people. This isn't ancient history. Some of your grandparents are older than Israel.
Israel exists on stolen land and their goal is fully destroy Palestine. It's as black and white as can be. It's murder. It's very nearly genocide. But the US is cool with it because we use them as a FOB.
Rapid here is defending murder. The recent actions of Palestine are, an admittedly gross but justified, self defense.
Edit: moved a comma
I do acknowledge that what Isreal does is oppression of Palestinians. I also acknowledge that what Hamas did last weekend was nasty and barbaric. Something you can't seem to do and I feel sorry for you.
Lol weak. Dude I literally just said it was "gross" you can't immediately come back and say that I "can't admit that it was nasty". Gross and nasty are literally synonyms.
Can you pause for like 2 seconds and realize that you've become so lost in "winning" this argument that you've reduced yourself to spouting literal nonsense?
And that goes double for whoever upvoted you.
So, it's me and anyone that agrees with me? Whatever rings your bell, my friend.
I wouldn't say "agree". I don't think it's possible to "agree" with a non-sequitur. Like... by definition I don't think thats possible.
Generally when you upvote something because it agrees with your side regardless of the correctness that is a form of "circle-jerking".
Except the EU backtracked. It's like everyone on here is salivating at the thought of more dead Palestinians, as if they haven't suffered enough under apartheid.
EU paused development aid, but continues on humanitarian aid iirc