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[–] Cjwii@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe don't have your "festival for peace and love" in an apartheid state about 5km from one of the most contested borders in the world? Not saying what Hamas did was right but goddamn was that some ignorant yuppie shit to have a music festival right there

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I won't deny my original thought on hearing this was who would be reckless enough to have a festival in this powderkeg of a region but reading this makes me hate myself for that. These are innocent folks trying to enjoy themselves in what is the most disheartening places in the world and its ridiculous to somehow blame them for what happened and what they've gone through.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the very popular concert site that the Gazans also make frequent use of for their own festivals?

Nevermind that, how about shut right the fuck up if you're going to try and victim blame raped civilians for being in too close proximity to the monsters that decided they were gonna go do some raping today.

It's one of the most heinous active choices a person can make, and the people who'd actively try to defend someone making such a vile and inhuman choice are second only to such in moral bankruptcy.

[–] Cjwii@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

You know what I'll give people under 21 who were born in Israel a pass. Literally everyone else chose to be in that fucked up country in that fucked up part of the world at that time. If you are a grown ass adult actively choosing to be part of the problem, by living in/traveling to/paying taxes in this horrible apartheid state, you deserve what happened to you.

The terrorists who carried out this event are even more despicable. There is never any reason to commit these kind of atrocities be it religion or whatever else.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If they didn't want to be violently raped and murdered why did they dress and behave so provocatively by holding a peaceful dance party nearby? Yeah clearly it was their fault. 🙄

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was mostly the "living in an apartheid state" part, actually.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you know that 20% of citizens of Israel identify as Arab or Palestinean? Maybe it's not about race and calling this apartheid is reductionist to the point of absurdity.

@DarkGamer @tryptaminev @HidingCat @Cjwii @TheTetrapod That sounds great, until you see how they're treated as 2nd class citizens

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's like saying that because a significant portion of South Africans were black, apartheid never existed. Which is ridiculous.