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[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One of the most frustrating parts of this all being, of course, that buying a new electric car is still much worse for the environment than buying a used fuel vehicle.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not that clear-cut. It is instantly worse for the environment but over the lifetime of the vehicle likely won't be, especially considering the low price of wind and solar are making energy refills more environmentally friendly every day.

[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I charge my car at work. My work has nearly 1500 solar panels on the roof so I think my charging is about as friendly to the planet as I can get.

[–] yesinmybackyard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. Most (~70%)of the emissions over a combustion car's lifetime are from operating it, with the remaining anount being from production and disposal.

As a counterpoint I'll add that the greenness of an EV is totally dependent on the greenness of the energy grid that charges it. If you live somewhere were power generation is decarbonized, emissions from an EV will be an order of magnitude lower than a combustion car per mile. If you live somewhere with dirty power, for example much of the American midwest which is mostly coal powered, an EV can actually produce as much emissions as a gas vehicle, just because of the dirty energy source.

Overall though, grids are decarbonizing around the world (with few exceptions). So more EVs are better than fewer. Of course the best solution to a litany of problems (emissions, congestion, inequality, poor land use) is fewer cars overall.

[–] ShesDayDreaming@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

No it's not EVs are 60% less polluting than fuel vehicles, it's irrelevant if you buy it used because it's history is part of its impact.

The over arching problem is there's too many vehicles on the road, most people including Americans when they drive only drive up to 3 miles.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The emissions are less for an ev within half a year to a year depending on your local energy mix https://youtu.be/6RhtiPefVzM