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Africa’s first carbon-removal plant stokes questions about responsible climate solutions (www.nbcnews.com)
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[–] Blake@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, I’m happy to support building large scale experimental establishments to test the theories, but that’s not what this is at all. This is a commercial installation in Africa, of all places. Why would the European research teams build a research facility so far away? That doesn’t make sense.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the difference between a large scale experimental establishment, and a first of its kind commercial experimental establishment?

As for location, presumably cheap land, power, lack of NIMBYs. Maybe tax incentives.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not the first of its kind though. It’s just the first in Africa. There are already a bunch of these in Europe and America.

If the researchers are in Europe then it doesn’t work for the plant to be in Africa. I don’t know why you’re arguing such an obviously wrong position lol

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah scratch the first of its kind, wasn't thinking when I wrote that. Nevertheless, my point stands. For the technology to grow and develop we need PoCs to be constructed. Valuable data can be obtained from operating the PoCs that we wouldn't otherwise get.

If the researchers are in Europe then it doesn’t work for the plant to be in Africa.

In this age where everything is networked and teams can be distributed worldwide, what in the world does it matter if the plant is in Africa? If anything, it would be encouraging knowledge transfer and dissemination.

I don’t know why you’re arguing such an obviously wrong position lol

In most online discussions, that's exactly how the other person feels about you. We generally keep it civil by not saying it out loud, though.