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For those who are unaware: A couple billionaires, a pilot, and one of the billionaires' son are currently stuck inside an extremely tiny sub a couple thousand meters under the sea (inside of the sub with the guys above).

They were supposed to dive down to the titanic, but lost connection about halfway down. They've been missing for the past 48 hours, and have 2 days until the oxygen in the sub runs out. Do you think they'll make it?

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[–] Gxost@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it's because the story about a missing submersible is unusual, and moreover, it's about a rescue attempt. This makes it more interesting than many other, albeit more dreadful, news stories.

[–] vegivamp@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

750 people drowning is also unusual, and there's also been rescue attempts.

All these victims have loved ones, and i don't wish death on anyone, but for the billionaires I find it quite hard to care much.

I still hope they're saved, though; and if they are I very much hope the experience will have changed them.

[–] Kantiberl@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just not the same. Drowning is quick and if you don't save them immediately they're most likely dead. Slowly suffocating in a sub while the clock ticks and something can be done about it is a different story.

Learn to care.

[–] vegivamp@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

You're assuming they're suffocating, when the smallest fault in the hull's integrity would make the thing implode, killing them before they realized what was happening.

Like everyone, my ability to care has limits. You can't worry and care about everything. I'll give my fucks for those who didn't grow rich exploiting others, thanks.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately it is not that unusual since the EU stopped Mare Nostrum to save money

750 people drowning is also unusual

It's terrible but not that unusual.

[–] duringoverflow@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

sure. It has nothing to do with the fact that in one of cases they are 5 billionaires while in the other one they are 750 poor migrants. No, totally not.

[–] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not entirely no, I didn’t see any news outlet leading the story with “5 Billionaires missing after Submersible lost contact”. For quite some time we didn’t even know who was on board. It’s more the fact that boats in the Mediterranean sink all the time, it’s still tragic but we know that that’s an issue we have now (most people unfortunately seem to have decided that they do not care that much). A submersible going missing and the coast guards of 2 countries looking for them, while thei only have air for a couple days, no one knowing where they are and it involving the titanic guarantees clicks, it’s almost like a movie plot. The fact that they are wealthy is certainly not the reason for it though, it’s the circumstances surrounding it, it’s unusual. People also know how ships work and why they capsize, while most people don’t have the slightest idea how deep sea submersibles work.

So yes, the ship capsizing and killing that many people is horrible and should get more attention, especially from the Goverments involved. It’s ridiculous that we let those poor people drown by the thousands and treat the ones who made it like scum. But I’m not convinced the Titanic story got traction BECAUSE the victims have money.

[–] penguin_knight@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

really? The first point of information I found out was that it cost 250k to get on.

"hey did you hear about the submarine that's lost?

"no?"

"It cost 250k to get on, to go see the titanic wreck"

pretty much how my entire day went yesterday with various coworkers

[–] duringoverflow@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so you think that 2 governments would had started spending millions if 5 migrants had somehow been trapped in the seabed of the Mediterranean?

[–] normalmighty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

5 migrants? No fucking way. 5 average citizens of any developed nation? Sure. We perform expensive and resource intensive search and rescue operations for people lost in the wilderness or out at sea all the time. And once the media brings attention to it, there's a lot of pressure to keep the funding going, otherwise next election cycle people are going to remember the current leadership as "those guys who just left some poor people to die to save money."

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I agree with you, mostly, but you could also argue that the situation only exists/is only possible because they're wealthy (the same reason the only sub apparently capable of rescuing them is owned by another billionaire). But that doesn't diminish your point--were these somehow 5 poor people stuck at the bottom of the ocean in a sub near the Titanic, it would still probably get a lot of attention.

[–] thekernel@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The Thailand cave rescue was all over the news and they were poor.

Its about novelty, nothing more nothing less.

A bunch of rich ppl have died on Mt Everest this year, nobody gives a shit as its a common occurrence.

[–] Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And they were diving to look at the titanic, everyone's favourite maritime disaster.