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Both Republican and Democratic senators emphasize that any successor to Kevin McCarthy will inherit the divided government that befell him — with another shutdown looming.

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[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

House republicans are running their party like they have all three chambers, and a huge majority. In reality, they’ve only got 4 seats that they can afford to lose in the only chamber that they control. To pass a bill means doing it with Denocratic support (from the Senate and Executive).

They’re going to need to pick someone that basically all Republicans can agree on, so it’s not going to be one of the most extreme ones.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're not trying to pass anything...

They want the government shut down. And a handful of em can do it on their own, so they are

[–] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Exactly . This looks great for Gaetz since he only cares about pandering to the Nazi extremes of his party. He doesn’t care if the government shuts down, to him that’s just stopping the democrats. He will spin it that way and his base will lap it up. Most won’t be impacted and the ones who are he figures won’t matter.

Our government is effectively frozen and at the end of the month it’s going to shut down entirely. A handful of maga fucks have figured out how to do that with our antiquated rules set in place by men who believed all men would forever possess a conscience and morality. These shit goblins possess neither.

We need a democratic super majority so that we can pass sweeping reforms and ensure this doesn’t happen again. We need the ability to oust these cucks so they’re forced to scurry back into whatever hole they crawled out of. Trumps going down. Rudy is broke. Johnny MyPillow is eating shit. Keep that energy, focus in on the rest of these traitors. Send them back to the dysfunctional states that shit them out and remind them that their federal funding is dependent on them not being complete ass hats. No more pandering to these idiots. Bring the hammer down hard.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This looks great for Gaetz...

I'll bet 100 USD that Gaetz isn't around much longer. My guess is that he'll be bounced out of the HoR before the end of the year, maybe right after they restart in 2024 but no longer than that. He ended his political career with this stunt.

[–] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago

I’d love to see it but the republicans have to do it themselves and they’ve shown that there’s next to nothing they won’t tolerate to keep a voting body.

Now what’s interesting to me is Madison Cawthorn going down pretty much immediately. And what did he do that bought him such a quick exit? While they’ll claim x or y, to me it was him talking about republican cocaine orgies. Which sounds outlandish. But there was an immediate concentrated effort to oust him. He had that picture get dropped and whatnot. What spooked them? Odd that such an outlandish thing would get them worked up. Unless of course it’s true. Hrmmmm.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I don’t know I just heard an NPR article where they were interviewing people from Pensacola and it seemed the stupid republicans were happy he made this move.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He's going to run for Governor of Florida, and he is currently popular enough to win.

[–] Whatsle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All he needs is for his red district to continue to vote for him. They obviously like him, they like that he is in the news and sticking it to the establishment. His district is way up in the panhandle, it's more Alabama than Florida. He's in no danger of losing his seat.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s in no danger of losing his seat.

Ethics Violations Committee says otherwise. There's a large portion of the GoP that will cheer his removal and the Democrats won't even think twice about voting for him to get booted.

[–] Whatsle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would risk pissing off the MAGA base. Like really piss them off. I doubt they would make that move, but it's possible.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think the MAGA base is going to matter much. There's not nearly enough of them in the House to save Gaetz from the Democrats and POd Republicans. If that vote gets called Gaetz is going to get the boot. This is an opportunity for establishment / moderate Republicans to throw a lasso around the Chaos Caucus.

[–] Whatsle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

And then trump rails against anyone who voted out his buddy Gaetz and calls them RINO's and they get primaried.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Start volunteering for 2024 then! We all got some work to do in the elections this year

[–] kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup, they want it to shut down so they can somehow blame it on the democrats.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, they want to shut it all down because they don't think there should be a federal government.

They'll blame it on the Dems, but that's not why they want it shutdown

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Also because shutting down the US funding for Ukraine is good for Russia.

[–] Redonkulation@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That may be their plan, but for the first time in my life it feels like nobody is buying that bullshit right now. We have news presenters and reporters actively laughing at Republican representatives when they try to swing the blame, and I feel the public at large understands exactly what's happening.

[–] kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their base is still buying their bullshit, though, and they're brainwashed so that won't change soon.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The benefits of a cult, right?

[–] Redonkulation@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

True the base won't change anytime soon, but those aren't the people you try to convince to switch. It's the voters stuck in between.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The democrats stopped us from having more seats.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not like they did much legislating when they had all 3. They just stuffed the supreme court which has had a worse effect.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

To pass a bill means doing it with Denocratic support (from the Senate and Executive).

Exactly, which means all the Chaos Caucus has done by removing McCarthy is insuring that every piece of legislation that comes out of the HoR is vastly more liberal than anything that would have been done previously.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, they're running the government like it only gets in the way, and aim to drown it in the bathtub, just like Uncle Grover wants.