this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2023
168 points (99.4% liked)
Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.
5393 readers
577 users here now
Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.
As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades:
How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world:
Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:
Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Hey, you get enough people together to be effective at tearing down the gates, going where the owners are, and doing what we should have done decades ago, I'll be there with bells on.
Instead people will shout "eat the rich!" on the internet until doomsday, and no dinner will ever be served.
There is a small, specific class of people that must be dealt with to even begin to address this. They hold all the keys, all the cards, all the hard power. Humanity lacks the will. And the owners make fun of people like you for believing trying to reason with them will ever do anything for the long term survival of the species when there's still another dollar to exploit.
If you aren't willing to be a part of handling that problem, you aren't serious either. They own the "justice" systems that would hold them responsible. They own the media that tell most peasants what to think and who to blame. They own the governments that were supposed to regulate them. Force is the only practical option. One the people won't exercise out of either rational fear of the individual consequences, or ignorant faith in their oppressors.
Go ahead and beg instead, I'm sure you believe we can change the outcome peaceably, lol. Scientists and rational people have been for half a century, begging the owners to look at the hard data of what they're doing and stop for the sake of their own species. How has that been going?
This is the tough pill to swallow that everyone is indeed avoiding.
Well unfortunately for humanity, minimizing, reframing, or simply ignoring man-made climate change doesn't matter. Distorting reality works great on humans, probably why humans are so eager to try it on climate change, but the physics of our little fishbowl are absolute, it is immune our stupid little human vs. human capitalist propaganda tricks we pull.
I've come to find that almost poetic in the absense of hope. All the lies we tell each other to fuck one another over to get a little more than our neighbors, "I don't have anything" to the hungry homeless person, "raising interest rates to increase unemployment will help poor people" from the fed to the willful idiots, on and on.
Say what you will about the coming famines, droughts, superstorms, and novel viruses that come will bring our species to its knees, all of those events will be honest. The climate warned us, it was measurable for over half a century, it basically screamed "there WILL be consequences" as the scientists translated for it. I'm positive millions to billions of willful fools will cry and claim no one saw it coming, but climate change, more than any human government or company in human history, will be Promises Made, Promises Kept.