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Admins, we're about to have a really bad SPAM problem when Lemmy removes captcha support in v.0.18 - You ALL have a responsibility to communicate back to lemmy devs to try to stop it. (tucson.social)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by th3raid0r@tucson.social to c/technology@beehaw.org

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Look, we can debate the proper and private way to do Captchas all day, but if we remove the existing implementation we will be plunged into a world of hurt.

I run tucson.social - a tiny instance with barely any users and I find myself really ticked off at other Admin's abdication of duty when it comes to engaging with the developers.

For all the Fediverse discussion on this, where are the github issue comments? Where is our attempt to convince the devs in this.

No, seriously WHERE ARE THEY?

Oh, you think that just because an "Issue" exists to bring back Captchas is the best you can do?

NO it is not the best we can do, we need to be applying some pressure to the developers here and that requires EVERYONE to do their part.

The Devs can't make Lemmy an awesome place for us if us admins refuse to meaningfully engage with the project and provide feedback on crucial things like this.

So are you an admin? If so, we need more comments here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3200

We need to make it VERY clear that Captcha is required before v0.18's release. Not after when we'll all be scrambling...

EDIT: To be clear I'm talking to all instance admins, not just Beehaw's.

UPDATE: Our voices were heard! https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3200#issuecomment-1600505757

The important part was that this was a decision to re-implement the old (if imperfect) solution in time for the upcoming release. mCaptcha and better techs are indeed the better solution, but at least we won't make ourselves more vulnerable at this critical juncture.

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[–] Dusty@lemmy.dustybeer.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I disagree, once your open source project “sprouts wings” you enter an unspoken power battle

You've seen Hackers one too many times. Again you can run your instance however you want, and can defederate from instances that don't implement things they way you are demanding they should, but you do not dictate how others (or the developers) run things.

The beauty of open source is you can always fork your own. The beauty of federation is you can block whoever you want or whatever instance you want.

Other than that, you have no right to demand anything of anyone.

[–] th3raid0r@tucson.social 17 points 1 year ago

No, I was around when SysV Init was "replaced" by Systemd and how that impacted the Debian project (and other distros).

But you know what, sure, let's stick to your bad faith, insulting interpretation, after all it is more becoming of an internet troll. I'm sure it'll get you lots of updoots from similarly trollish individuals.

Personally, I believe in something called collective responsibility, and that does including expecting community members to do their fair share. But it sounds like you envision federations as mini fiefdoms.

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not part of this conversation, I am not a mod, I am not an admin, and I'm not necessarily informed enough to make any determination on who is right and wrong. However,

You've seen Hackers one too many times.

There's no such thing.

[–] Dusty@lemmy.dustybeer.com 1 points 1 year ago

I'll give you that one. Speaking of which, I should watch it again, I haven't done so this year yet.