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IMHO XMPP / Jabber is the best Instant Messenger (IM) protocol (feddit.dk)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by privsecfoss@feddit.dk to c/foss@beehaw.org

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It is battle tested, standardized, widely used, have open source servers and apps, end-to-end encryption (OMEMO), self-hostable and are low on ressources and federated / decentralized.

I use it with family and friends. Conversations and blabber.im on android and Gajim on Linux. There's also apps for windows and Apple.

Curious if anyone here use it and why, why not?

EDIT: Doh. In these Lemmy times I forgot federated. Added.

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[–] siskourso@odin.lanofthedead.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We used to use it at work and I loved it but then eventually got replaced by slack which I am not a fan of.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

slack is the worst team communicate software ever existed. Everything is better than it.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see someone hasn't used Microsoft Teams.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or hipchat

[–] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hipchat is XMPP. I used to connect to it in Pidgin.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I wish I knew that when we used it. I was using their client and it wasnt great. Slack was a welcome change when we switched

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Hipchat was great before Atlassian sold it to slack

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Its not great, but its nowhere near half as bad as teams

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even Microsoft Teams?

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My wife uses teams for work, it seems pretty nice, it has everything in place, like video meeting, meeting note, calendar, and everything seems very streamlined.

Slack just don't have anything. What is your complaint about teams, is it unstable or something?

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Buggy, uses a ton of resources, super weird UI. I've said no in job interviews to companies who use Teams as their main communication platform. Slack is "fine", but much better than Teams. At least it works, especially from Linux.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My wife's company mainly use windows, and I have never tried it on my computers, so that is probably why I never heard much complain about it.

I think for them, they just use teams and couple other software, nothing resources intensive, so the resource consumption is probably fine for them.

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 1 points 1 year ago

Yep. And all complaints come from hackers/developers/programmers. Especially if you search Hacker News, you can find hundreds, if not thousands of comments where people just can't stand of Teams at all.

[–] siskourso@odin.lanofthedead.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

absolutely it is, worst part I hate is I cant mute/block anyone. Just have to deal with that annoying douche yapping all day in chat.

[–] privsecfoss@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago

We use Teams and friends at work, so I know the struggle.