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65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It feels like a compromise from a period of time that is no longer relevant to these times when we are trying to push this country into the future. I don't want rural regions to have more of a voice, FFS. Look at what it is doing to this country. Having fewer people have an equal say with the majority of the people is also not great, the majority should win out. Why the fuck should tracts of land be voting?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We should never completely silence the voice of a group of people for all time, even if right now they're pushing some heinous shit.

Part of the reason for the phenomenon of Trump was the failure of politicians to care about the legitimate problems that rural voters have.

In any case, if the House and Electoral College functioned like they should, the majority would win a lot more often. Don't focus on the Senate, focus on the two institutions that weren't designed to give rural people an outsized choice but have been manipulated to do so.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

completely silence the voice of a group of people for all time

I don't think anything proposed here by anyone would do that? What is being proposed is to stop prioritizing the votes of people occupying vast tracts of land over the majority. To have a vote cast by someone in the hinterlands equal someone's vote in more populous parts of the country is putting them on par with everyone else. I'm not so sure what is so magical about someone living in a remote area that their interests should not align with everyone else's.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's nothing magical. They will inherently have different priorities, and they deserve a voice in the political process.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

If it's nothing magical, why do we do this for no other minority group?

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How is it no longer relevant? Do you know where your food comes from?

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the legislative branch of the US government is structured, and why.

Your concerns are valid, but you're not aiming them at the correct House.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not understanding the food part here.

I understand the history of compromising with states that had less (free) people because of slave states; I'm saying it's no longer relevant in modern society. It turns out rural areas are usually better represented by Democratic policies in any case. Ironically.