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It seems like the password limit is set to 60 characters so I’m unable to login to my instance. There probably should be no limit in the app because each server could have different limits set.

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[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why in the f do you need 60+ chars for a password?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Computers get faster all the time, making brute force cracking of passwords easier all the time. Password managers don't care how long a password is. The task of filling it out is the same.

[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

60 character passwords with any amount of complexity would take effectively infinite time to brute, an 18 character password with complex characters would take millions of years... There is no reason to use 60, let alone more than

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why make excuses for maximum password lengths? Just let people decided on their own if they want 200 character passwords or not.

[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, there could be very reasonable reasons for the limit, like keeping the hash tables sane, or keeping databases from needing unnecessary padding, but there really isn't any reasonable reason for needing 60+ characters in passwords

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well, there could be very reasonable reasons for the limit, like keeping the hash tables sane, or keeping databases from needing unnecessary padding, but there really isn’t any reasonable reason for needing 60+ characters in passwords

And how is this the duty of a client app to police that? OP says it's about being able to log into their own instance and the client app is blocking this.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

Have you heard about pass phrases ?

Also, none of those is a sane reason to limit password length. A huge point of hashing is having short, constant length strings on output no matter the input. There's no limitation or database issue there.

The only reason to limit password length is actually security (for bad algorithms) and DoS, but that requires a limit in the thousands.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Because there’s no reason not to and plenty of reason to?