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[–] applejacks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is my understanding, it's not that they're bad, but that they are in everything.

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, that's the main problem with all the buzzword substances that diet culture is obsessed with: fat, salt, carbs, etc... All of those are fine in moderation, but the problem is that the processed garbage that the average person eats for lunch contains a RIDICULOUS amount of those things.

Not sugar, though. Sugar is just bad for you, full stop. πŸ˜†

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If sugar is bad for you, vegetable starch is as well. Vegetable starches (potato, rice, wheat, corn) are chains of glucose molecules. They're metabolized and raise blood glucose even faster than sucrose.

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Obviously there are various forms of sugar in a lot of things, it's just a carbohydrate. My point is that there is zero reason to ever ADD sugar to any food, period. It is not an essential nutrient and it does not add anything beneficial other than flavor. It only promotes tooth decay, diabetes, and eventual organ failure. Yum.

[–] quinnly@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My point is that there is zero reason to ever ADD sugar to any food, period

But you said it yourself, the reason to add it is for flavor.

Whether you like it or not, flavor is an incredibly important part of food and eating. Arguably the most important.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As somebody who eats strict keto. There's tons of flavors out there, that aren't sugar-based. Basically any recipe from before 1900 adds tons of flavor without sugar.

Sugar is addictive, so it's extremely popular in cooking, especially restaurant food.

[–] quinnly@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Basically any recipe from before 1900 adds tons of flavor without sugar.

Except for cakes and cookies and pies and brownies and sorbets and ice creams and truffles and caramels and creme brulees and any number of delicious desserts which have all called for sugar for centuries

I've eaten plenty of keto treats because half the people I've dated in the last ten years have been keto... I'll tell ya this, monkfruit extract, stevia, xylitol, maltitol, they're all the same and they all have nothing on sugar, not even close

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. I hate food that pretends to be other food.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I have type 1 diabetes, so, yeah. I am pretty careful about starches.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't great for you, unless you really need calories. Glycemic index based diets heavily limit them, so do diabetic diets, and keto practically bans them.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

They’re good in the contexts of whole foods with protein, fiber and vitamins. I’m just pointing out that sugar and potatoes are almost the same thing.