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A group of caste equity leaders have been fasting for more than two weeks to convince Gov. Gavin Newsom to sign a bill that would make caste discrimination illegal in California.

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[–] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was reading this expecting it to be about India or some other country that I've heard has a caste system... but California? I must be living under a rock.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"If Hindus migrate to other regions on earth, Indian caste would become a world problem”- Dr. B.R. Ambedkar, victim of Hindu caste oppression, staunch opponent of casteism, and the architect of India's Constitution.

[–] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so sad. I hope we can move past this stuff. Come on, we are in the 2020's we should be on to world equality already!

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate this type of reasoning so much. Nobody ever claimed there was a timeline. We aren't on a schedule. It requires work. And the bigger the change you want to make, the more work it requires. Changing the ingrained culture of the largest population in the world won't be easy.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No one's asking Newsom to change anyone's culture. He has to recognize caste discrimination as discrimination and make it illegal in California. Casteism wont decrease, but caste oppression will be made illegal and will have negative consequences. Hopefully, it'll teach future ~~American Indians~~ Indian Americans that caste oppression is wrong.

ETA: corrected a wrong. Thanks @bionicjoey

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. I just don't like the "It's $CURRENT_YEAR" argument. Also, you may want to say "Indian American" instead of "American Indian", since the latter usually refers to native Americans.

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apparently lots of these Brahmin - who have greater access to education - computer techies bring along their culture to Silicon Valley. In India, they can't even share a chalk with the Dalit. So, you don't expect them to share a room/cubicle.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Caste superiority/ inferiority and means of oppression are taught to Indian children right from their birth. By their parents, their family, their community, their teachers, their classmates. In India, a child might not get its mothers milk but they'll grow up imbibing caste. Any Indian who says they've not experienced caste discrimination/ atrocities is from the oppressor caste, because while the privileged can be blind to their actions their victims who bear the brunt are not blind. Thanks to education and brave reformers they're not mute or deaf anymore.

Brahmins had a monopoly on education & white collar jobs in India before the British came and opened the doors of education to all castes. To this day, Brahmins and their oppressor caste goons inflict brutal violence against the oppressed castes, and then protest when their violence is called out.

Even now, in 2023, Dalits risk getting murdered if they wear sunglasses, grow a mustache, celebrate their wedding, study well in school, Their fingers get chopped off or they get beaten up by heavy wooden rods for drinking water from a tap that the oppressor caste deems is theirs. Oppressor caste school teachers beat oppressed caste students for drinking water from the water pot. Adivasis and Dalits get urinated upon by oppressor castes so they 'remember their place'. To this day.

Then there are the caste rapes & brutalities against Dalits & Muslims. You can look up info on Hathras rape & Kathua rape crimes. Those are not stray incidents, they are a part of the systemic brutality continously inflicted on oppressed castes by the oppressor castes for the past 2000+ years.

Brahmins created and imposed a purity culture on India where they are the purest and the oppressed castes are impure. It's an advanced & more developed ubermensch/ untermensch system than the Nazis had. The pure veg b.s in India is the result of this purity/impurity aka ubermensch/ untermensch system.

A recent example; Sudha Murthy a Brahmin, and the British PM Rishi Sunak's mother-in-law and wife of international tech. company Infosys founder, has very proudly and publicly stated that she carries her own spoon when travelling outside India lest she be handed cutlery that was used to eat non-vegetarian food and so become impure. This is an example of how Brahmins think & act. Till 2014 such thoughts were shared behind their closed doors when abroad. Now they're emboldened to spew their purity/impurity culture in public because India's violent Hindu supremacism is not just unchecked but also welcomed & feted by world leaders.

To Brahmins everyone but them is impure by bring born to non-Brahmins, and that includes you, And the Brahmins call being being born to Brahmin parents a 'merit'. They hate Christianity and Islam, because both religions don't have a caste system (the class system is not the caste system) and both offered a way to the oppressed castes to leave Hinduism and be treated as humans.

When the wife of an international tech. company's founder publicly & proudly shares her casteism & ubermensch/ untermensch culture and and no one from Infosys or any other Indian tech co. or any other Indian co. objects or calls her out, you can understand the kind of casteism that is prevelant in Indian tech co.s and Indian non-tech co.s .

This is the caste culture that Brahmins have brought & implemented into the developed world when they migrated. This is the caste system that the developed world is & should fight against.

"If Hindus migrate to other regions on earth, Indian caste would become a world problem”- Dr. B.R. Ambedkar, victim of Hindu caste oppression, staunch opponent of casteism, and the architect of India's Constitution.

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