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[–] dublet@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's worth bearing in mind this war could be over in a single second, if the Russian army and its various mercenaries hoisted the white flag and proceeded to leave Ukraine and went back to Russia.

[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From the beginning, we've heard stories about Russian soldiers being shot for not following through. I'd like to think that I'd choose the right thing and walk away, but no one knows until they're in that position

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That not necessarily just a Russian Military thing thats just a military thing. "Desertion in the face of the enemy" is punishable by death under multiple military codes. Including the USs UCMJ.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Get shot for being a good slave soldier, or maybe get shot for being a good person.

Tough decision for a coward.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is very easy to say on the Internet. Things change when bullets are cracking around you and stuff is blowing up all around. I'd also like to say I'd do the right thing in this case, but I'm also home, not being conscripted and pushed into the meat grinder.

They're also easy to say for people that know they're not baby raping murderers, but maybe you're not so sure of your moral compass

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And even Russia would be better for it.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think Russia wants these people back? Why do you think they sent them to die in the first place?

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

They would be better for it because they could stop wasting resources banging their heads on a wall. And who knows, perhaps there could be better leaders in Russia than Putin and his mafia.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 4 points 1 year ago

Alas, Putin will never do that. He'll need some kind of "win" before even considering a peace talk. It might be easier to force him to publicly kiss a gay man's cheek than pulling out from Ukraine empty-handed.