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Are people really trying to make blacklist and whitelist a race thing? Good Lord.
Are we going to start referring to cables as having female-identifying ends and male-identifying ends? Are USB-C cables non-binary?
That discussion happened a few years ago and most actively-developed projects using those terms have stopped or are stopping.
Also, btw, while hermaphroditic connectors have always been a thing, in the USB world cables tend to have male connectors on both ends regardless of if they're A-to-B, A-to-C, C-to-C, or have one of the many B variants.
Cables: that's already a thing.
However, in this case the alternate name is more obvious and probably more appropriate.
Re: naming: I agree with you since it has nothing to do with race, any more than black/white has to do with race in chess.
The world is burning. Too much plastic in the ocean. Serious war in Europe. And whitelist/blacklist is somehow a concern. We are doomed.
hi, nonbinary person here
no, you fucking doughnut! just say plug/socket or port/plug or keep calling it M/F, there are thousands of better fights to fight than this, and if anyone says otherwise, let them yell at the clouds alone.
literally yes?? what binary gender does a cablehave?????
Cables have 2 ends
male to female cable is trans confirmed
No one is trying to 'make it a race thing'. It was already 'a race thing' and we are actively trying to un-race it.
You and I being unaware of the partially racial origins of these terms (yes, I just learned about this too), doesn't erase the implications of these words and how it can be hurtful to some people.
There's no such thing as anti-wokeness, only willful ignorance. We can be better people than that.
Racial origins of those terms? Citation needed.
Black and white, in the sense of good and evil, have had their connotations for a fucking long time, whereas black and white to describe skin colour are relatively recent etymologies. I'm pretty sure that Romans didn't call themselves "white" or others "black", for example.
I'm willing to be taught, but this sounds like bullshit to me.
The etymology being wrong doesn't mean that we shouldn't drop freighted terminology, I just don't want false justification. Bullshit is never a valid reason to do something.