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[–] superfes@beehaw.org 77 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't get it, if 3PA is only 1% of the traffic, why even bother murdering them?

[–] ono@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's possible that this is not about collecting money for third party app use, but instead about forcing people to use Reddit's apps (both mobile and web), which are designed for data extraction and tracking.

[–] Souvlaki@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, if they wanted money from 3rd party apps, they'd have sane prices. The ridiculous API cost was done to effectively kill all other apps without saying they are killing all other apps.

[–] Altomes@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

That’s one hundred percent what I think this is all about

[–] madmaurice@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My best guess is they want to fight against adblockers next and can't have people easily switch to a 3PA and avoid ads this way.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ads already exist in Reddit's system as a different subtype of the same entity that a post or a comment is. They could just... Present adds in the API call returns. And they could have someone doing regular checks to ensure that the app developers aren't filtering out ads. This is so fucking stupid lol

[–] ono@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That wouldn't give Reddit access to your phone's APIs.

Android permissions required by Reddit 2023.23.0:

  • android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE
  • android.permission.INTERNET
  • android.permission.READ_MEDIA_IMAGES
  • android.permission.READ_MEDIA_VIDEO
  • android.permission.READ_MEDIA_AUDIO
  • android.permission.READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
  • android.permission.FOREGROUND_SERVICE
  • android.permission.ACCESS_WIFI_STATE
  • com.google.android.gms.permission.AD_ID
  • android.permission.POST_NOTIFICATIONS
  • android.permission.WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
  • android.permission.READ_SYNC_SETTINGS
  • android.permission.WRITE_SYNC_SETTINGS
  • android.permission.WAKE_LOCK
  • android.permission.ACCESS_COARSE_LOCATION
  • com.android.launcher.permission.INSTALL_SHORTCUT
  • android.permission.VIBRATE
  • android.permission.PACKAGE_USAGE_STATS
  • android.permission.USE_BIOMETRIC
  • android.permission.USE_FINGERPRINT
  • android.permission.RECORD_AUDIO
  • android.permission.CAMERA
  • android.permission.FLASHLIGHT
  • android.permission.MODIFY_AUDIO_SETTINGS
  • com.google.android.c2dm.permission.RECEIVE
  • com.google.android.finsky.permission.BIND_GET_INSTALL_REFERRER_SERVICE
  • android.permission.RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED
  • com.reddit.frontpage.DYNAMIC_RECEIVER_NOT_EXPORTED_PERMISSION
  • com.android.vending.BILLING
  • android.permission.BLUETOOTH
  • android.permission.BLUETOOTH_CONNECT
  • com.sec.android.provider.badge.permission.READ
  • com.sec.android.provider.badge.permission.WRITE
  • com.htc.launcher.permission.READ_SETTINGS
  • com.htc.launcher.permission.UPDATE_SHORTCUT
  • com.sonyericsson.home.permission.BROADCAST_BADGE
  • com.sonymobile.home.permission.PROVIDER_INSERT_BADGE
  • com.anddoes.launcher.permission.UPDATE_COUNT
  • com.majeur.launcher.permission.UPDATE_BADGE
  • com.huawei.android.launcher.permission.CHANGE_BADGE
  • com.huawei.android.launcher.permission.READ_SETTINGS
  • com.huawei.android.launcher.permission.WRITE_SETTINGS
  • android.permission.READ_APP_BADGE
  • com.oppo.launcher.permission.READ_SETTINGS
  • com.oppo.launcher.permission.WRITE_SETTINGS
  • me.everything.badger.permission.BADGE_COUNT_READ
  • me.everything.badger.permission.BADGE_COUNT_WRITE
[–] madmaurice@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Probably. But throwing out 3PAs is easier, well except for the backlash.

[–] Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I switched to Lemmy to avoid Reddit a̶d̶s̶.

[–] min0nim@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago

All that suggests is that 90% of the traffic is bots.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

from Umberto Eco's list of 14 common features of fascism:

  1. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

It's no surprise spez worships elon musk

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 11 points 1 year ago

Gotta put on a public spectacle of being ruthlessly profit focused when you're trying to personally grift the public IPOing a platform you were unable to make profitable.

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

You can always get richer

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I heard it's actually closer to 25% traffic.

[–] dhc02@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Really? That's huge.