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Let's put some life into this sub. I don't think degrowth is possible under capitalism because the imperative to degrow contradicts the capitalist drive for the creation of value (valorization) which must always grow under capitalism'

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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wars and crisis are degrowth that happens constantly and they are definitely not socialists. Unless sharing the loss and pain is the socialist part I guess?

[–] mambabasa 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Degrowth isn't the same as a shrinking of economy due to war and crisis. It is the intentional slowdown of the economy towards very specific ends: less work, less consumption, more welfare, etc.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not degrowth then. That's the repurpose of the economy. Definanciarisation would be a better term IMO. Or people oriented economy.

As I said, growth is an illusion for people to believe the system will benefit the poor as well as the rich. If they believe it, they can't wish for degrowth, because they understand very well who will suffer from the decrease of growth.

[–] mambabasa 2 points 1 year ago

Of course that's degrowth. That's the accepted definition among degrowthers. Degrowth is about benefiting the poor as well. Stop talking out of your asshole.