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People should be allowed full decision over the treatments they want to get, no matter how arbitrary, stupid, or contradictory. To suggest otherwise is a horrific dystopia
Bullshit. You don’t get a new kidney and get to keep on drinking.
No, he's right. They SHOULD be allowed full decision over the treatments they want to get.
However, those decisions should not be free from the rules we as a society have put in place.
Us banning COVID vaccine deniers this treatment could be a good compromise. They freely get to decide, and they also suffer the consequences of that decision. Win/Win.
this is honestly why I thought vaccine cards to sit at restaurants, attend concerts... These are good ideas.
We do this in Australia for kindergarten, if your kids aren't vaccinated you don't get the childcare subsidy.
For reference, the subsidy can be the difference between paying $200 a week and $1200 a week.
Scary shit!
Nah it's great, fuck antivaxxers
Right. I don’t care if COViD deniers chose not to get a vaccine. I care that they endanger people who want or need to be more careful. Let them make the choice, as long as the rest of us can choose not to be exposed to them
That would create a world you won't want to live in when fully realized
So people with autoimmune deficiency can choose to just hide indoors or die, because selfish pond scum spend too much time on Facebook?
Nah, that's the wrong way around. Meet the basic expectations of society or accept you will be excluded from it.
Literally me. I've been locked inside since 2020 because I had a double lung transplant and COVID will most likely cause my lungs to reject, and I die.
Assholes refusing to put a damn n95 mask on has pretty much thrown my life away. My transplanted lungs wont last forever. My final years are locked indoors because a fucking mask is political.
Do you mean liver? That’s the organ alcohol primarily harms. Kidneys are somewhat secondary.
Yeah, because kidneys are a rare and valuable thing what drinking would prevent from working
That makes zero sense for your petty ass sense of vengeance by denying people easily manufactured treatments because they turned down a vaccine you think they should have gotten.
That most of society thinks they should have gotten. That results in other people dying if they don't get it.
GTFO of here acting like your right to a fist doesn't end where my nose begins.
The State isn't the society...
so·ci·e·ty
/səˈsīədē/
noun
the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
Thank you for proving my point.
To be clear, societies exist regardless of the existence of states. The fact that states are trying to control societies and communities doesn't make any state "The Society"... Society is people.
Thank you for reminding me the block button exists
Yes, you do get to decide the treatments you want to get. Nobody is forcing any treatments on you. But just like freedom of speech, it doesn't mean freedom from consequences of that speech. Too stupid and didn't want to participate in saving your fellow human? Well, said fellow humans don't want to participate in saving you either.
If that decision contributes to the spread of a pandemic, they can keep they cherished decisions behind bars in a quarantined prison.
Oh no, the dystopia of having to get a vaccine to prevent the spread of dangerous disease to your fellow human beings. The horror.
The dystopia of arbitrarily punishing people with inability to get things that would literally cure their diabetes because they refused a vaccine
Imagine having diabetes, but refusing to get vaccinated so you'd be eligible for a cure.
If there are plenty of vaccines to go around, sure.