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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Same here. Nvidia troubles were one the main reasons I jumped ship from Tumbleweed.

I'm a little surprised at the focus on "install once", because I kind of thought my negative distupgrade experiences were a "me" problem. Honestly, I can't remember the last time I had a successful major upgrade on Linux. Totally nuked an Ubuntu install trying to upgrade from 20.04. Now I take major upgrades as an opportunity to hop distros again.

[–] Rockslide0482@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tell me more about your Tumbleweed+NVIDIA problems. I'm on Leap 15.5, but with all this I've thought about moving over to Tumbleweed or Fedora. My card is NVIDIA, so I'm not looking for a big headache.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The kernel got updated fairly frequently in Tumbleweed, and more than once I had to manually uninstall and reinstall Nvidia drivers afterwards. Even that didn't work once, and I had to roll back the kernel version to get a working X session. At that point I pinned my kernel to that outdated version so it would not get updated again and I could move on with my life.

I also never figured out how I could get both the Nvidia drivers and other kernel modules (specifically ZFS) to function together.

This is why I grudgingly switched back to Ubuntu. Though to be fair, even Ubuntu LTS, with Nvidia drivers in the official repository, has its issues. For example, they had (and I think still have, though I haven't checked in a few months) incorrect dependencies so I could not install the latest drivers along with the latest CUDA libraries. I could either manually install everything from Nvidia or stick with older drivers in the official repos. Both methods come with their share of problems.

God I hate Nvidia drivers.

Yeah. I often kick myself for getting an nvidia card. My former distro was Ubuntu so I'm familiar with it from that end. I can see how having a constantly updating kernel could cause pain with the nvidia drivers. Even on leap or Ubuntu any tine the nvidia drivers updated it took a fair bit of extra time for regular apt/zypper processing kernel stuff and whatnot.

im going to keep a sharp eye on slowroll. I might be crazy enough to (eventually) try to convert from leap 15.5 to tumbleweed to slowroll. If it all blows up I was probably going to have to do that anyway.

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