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I have only commented so far with only positive reception, all my comments are in the positives and I only have 5 downvote all I am pretty sure coming from the same person on the same thread, yet I have -5 rep, why?

if I add my positive upvotes, likes, whatever and subtract my 5 downvotes I would have 97-5 which is 92, why do only downvotes or negative interaction count but not positive?

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[–] asjmcguire@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I too would like some clarification on how the up and down votes work on here. I believe I read on one of the FAQ posts - that boosts actually increase your reputation but upvotes don't - because they are the equivalent of likes on Mastodon. I may however be mistaken. Though I just boosted you and took your reputation to -4

[–] iNeedScissors67@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are correct in how it works. It's incredibly frustrating. On Reddit I was +80k, and I don't care about the actual number, I care that it showed I contributed to conversations to the best of my ability. I should be at plus several hundred right now but I'm in the negative. It's not a huge deal but I'd prefer not to be mistaken for a troll.

[–] Killakomodo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At least we all now know, if you agree with a comment or post and want to show support boosting shows far more support then upvoting so a good rule of thumb now is if you upvote it, you should also boost it, at least for now. I hope this will be changed.

[–] asjmcguire@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes - it is likely down to the lack of a standard. Upvotes are federated out as the same ActivityPub schema as liking something. Boosts are federated out as boosts. So if someone on Mastodon saw your comment for example, liking it - is typically a way to say to the poster "I like this", but when you boost it you want other people to see it - so the sentiment is roughly the same here. Because if your reputation could be increased by someone on a different platform simply liking your comment - that would be fine - but there is no currently available federated ability to downvote - so people would have an artificially high reputation, because only the people on kBin platforms can downvote you. (I don't actually know if downvotes from lemmy platforms affect us here)

[–] UnshavedYak@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems kinda wonky. I'm working on writing my own flavor of an ActivityPub client. Is there somewhere you know of that this is being discussed, developed, etc? Iirc ActivityPub itself doesn't define this, right? I figure what we're talking about here is just the data model some apps have created within the ActivityPub spec - and by keeping it consistent apps can federate with each other. I'm curious on advancement of that model to introduce new concepts and features but retain some compatibility.

[–] asjmcguire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

ActivityPub specs are discussed and I believe extended here: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/c/activitypub/5

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ernest replied above that he agrees it should be changed

[–] Killakomodo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, I know, he replied to me, this was made before he did.

[–] GankTopPlz@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

the problem is that reddit doesn't give more than -15 on any given comment and 0 negative karma for posts. you can just go around pissing people off and make up for it with 1 post saying the obvious meme. not that given no karma for getting upvotes seems better though.

[–] cheeseOnBread@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wha is there a boost and upvote option? What's the difference?

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Boosts re-send the post to followers/group subscribers, allowing it to reach people who subscribed after the post was originally made.

Upvotes change the colour of the up arrow that you see.

[–] Killakomodo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yes that did increase my rep, Thank you, did the same for you! But what I don't understand is why are negative accounted for but not positive, the negative downvotes can effect your rep but not the positive ones seems like an oversite. Either negatives need to not do anything (which I disagree with) or both have to effect your rep, not just one.