this post was submitted on 15 Sep 2023
211 points (84.6% liked)

Technology

59298 readers
5120 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Fully Charged in Just 6 Minutes – Groundbreaking Technique Could Revolutionize EV Charging::Typically, it takes around 10 hours to charge an electric vehicle. Even with fast-charging techniques, you're still looking at a minimum of 30 minutes – and that's if there's an open spot at a charging station. If electric vehicles could charge as swiftly as we refill traditional gas vehicles, it wo

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] v81@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's 4,350 amps @230vac. The service fuse for my entire home is 80 or 100amp (single phase domestic dwelling Australia). The main breaker is 63amp.

[–] Chreutz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Fast charging uses up to 1000 V DC, and the current limits of conductors are typically set by the temperature it reaches when conduction losses heat them up. This can be (and is) offset by liquid cooling, allowing current installations to deliver up to 650 A (Tesla supercharger v3).

With improvements, it's not far off 1 MW.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DC fast charging typically runs at 400 volts, with some cars doing 800. They also do it with highly specialized equipment and service lines you'd never see in a residential setting.

When charging at home, you have all night. A 50A circuit will go 0-100 on most cars in that time, and if you look at what most people actually drive you can generally get by on much less.

[–] zoe@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

how much amperage does utilities allow for residential use ? imagine charging ur car at 50 amp and decide to turn the heater on, only to trigger the breaker and cause the house to go dark lol. also home charging is costly as heck. 80kwh each night, wth ? u probably need 75m² of solar to generate electricity for 5 hours, generating 75kwh, enough to fully charge ur car for free, but also u need 7*11kwh powerpacks to accomodate all this energy. seems costly as hell. unless also ur job offers supercharger parking, which would be more suitable

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

how much amperage does utilities allow for residential use ? imagine charging ur car at 50 amp and decide to turn the heater on, only to trigger the breaker and cause the house to go dark lol

A fair question. Depends on the house. 100-200 is common, depending on the age of the house. 100 or less if your house predates central air conditioning, and 150-200 is far more common in the last few decades. Most people charge overnight, and they're not using much else. If you truly have a smaller connection, even 20A @240V is surprisingly useful. Or hell, a normal outlet.

80kwh each night, wth ?

That may be your battery's capacity, but that's not necessarily your draw. How big is your gas tank? Do you give it ~15 gallons each day? My car gets about 3.5 miles per kWh. If I drive it 70 miles, that's 20 kWH and then the car stops charging. And I pay about $2.50 for it. What would gas cost?

u probably need 75m² of solar to generate electricity for 5 hours, generating 75kwh, enough to fully charge ur car for free, but also u need 7*11kwh powerpacks to accomodate all this energy. seems costly as hell.

Solar direct to car is actually a terrible idea. Just hook something up to the grid if you want solar, but it's pretty cheap without. You're overthinking it, probably because your 80 kWH per day number is so out of whack.

unless also ur job offers supercharger parking, which would be more suitable

Again, no. Well, it's cool if you can get it but it's really not needed because home electricity is generally way cheaper than gasoline.

[–] zoe@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

yea, fast charging is usually achieved using DC.