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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No. You'll probably be assigned a job that's required to be done for the good of society.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Reminds me of that one twitter thread "what will your job be in the commune" and everyone said the most useless shit like "I have bad anxiety and can't work but I can bake everyone cookies 😊" and the one guy who chimed in "I have a background as a Carpenter so probably just keep my construction job" got roasted for being a conservative and capitalist in the replies. I'll try to find it.

Edit: sorry for the redtit link but here's a good screencap

https://www.reddit.com/r/twittermoment/comments/pi8asy/the_legendary_whats_your_job_on_the_leftist/

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus that was a tough read. Absolutely no real work going to be done in these communes lmao

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Making clothes from scraps" πŸ’€πŸ’€ even these people know they're fucked

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Oh, that's brilliant.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh my god that is pure gold. Diaper boy holy shi, brilliant.

[–] Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Behind every modern day Marxist is a childish adult with mentally deficiencies

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The assumption here being that we live in scarcity? That worker productivity is directly tied to the amount of time worked? That people won't take difficult jobs like being a doctor without the financial incentive?

[–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All three are generally true.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

Which is, of course, why productivity increased when they instituted the 8 hour work day and is, of course, why Americans only average something like 3 hours of work in an 8 hour day. Because more time working means more work done. Obviously.

It's also, of course, why people are still starving when agricultural output easily exceeds consumption. Because of food scarcity, obviously.

This must also explain why in Britain, notorious for underpaying doctors, becoming a doctor is still one of the most desirable occupations. Because people won't pursue societally necessary jobs if they don't pay well. Obviously.

[–] Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The assumption here being that we live in scarcity?

This isn't an assumption, this is objective fact, we don't have infinite resources.

That worker productivity is directly tied to the amount of time worked?

It's not 1:1, but there's a strong correlation between productivity and time. Obviously having workers work 16 hours a day is not going to go well in terms of productivity, but a person who works 6 months of the year and a person who works 10 months of the year are not going to have the same annual productivity. The person who worked for 10 months is going to be more productive because they put in more time.

That people won’t take difficult jobs like being a doctor without the financial incentive?

What's the mystery here? Money is indeed a big incentive. Why would anybody spend about 14 years of their life after high school studying very difficult subjects to work very demanding jobs if they end getting paid as much as a delivery driver? Might as well become a delivery driver and save your save a decade and a half of stress.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

We also don't have infinite people.

As shown by Henry Ford a century ago, more hours does not correlate to more production. https://time.com/charter/6167989/ford-overhauls-its-work-practices/

Moreover, as shown by Britain, doctors will gladly still be doctors even if the pay is absolute dogshit.

Seeing as how in most markets you can't exactly do what you want for a living (or even close), or acquire the skills because they're behind a steep pay wall, and the only employment you can find is very limited in scope to what the community wants, what's the difference? Most jobs might as well be issued in the mail.

[–] aport@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It blows my mind the people who think, "after the revolution I'm going to be a dog walker and bake dog treats!" When in reality they will probably die in a labor camp.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe not die in a labor camp, but they won't be doing what they expected to do, or even wanted to do.

If they don't have any particular skill, they'll probably end up being crop pickers or some shit because we really need those.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically very similar to capitalism, but they would probably have a better quality of life overall.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Hahahahahahahaha omg... you can't be this ignorant. You're joking, right?