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[–] Helix@feddit.de 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using Linux since 2004 and systemd has made my life significantly easier. People bickering about systemd are usually ultra nerds without arguments real people would consider important.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember in my coding class when the prof claimed the language we were learning didn’t have GOTO, but it also didn’t need it because anything that could be accomplished with GOTO could be accomplished with loops and conditionals.

Now looking back I can’t believe what a tech debt nightmare goto is, and I’m glad I weaned off it.

Startup scripts seem more powerful because they’re code you know will be executed sequentially. For a developer that feels nice.

But a declarative system like systemd is so much more predictable and stable, specifically because it does NOT allow for sequential execution of code.

Once I made that switch I was a fan. It’s so much more predictable and standardized.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly my sentiment. Why would you want something with more moving parts than systemd which is also slower? :D

There are some good alternatives to SysV init.d scripts nowadays which only came to fruition after systemd existed and people noticed it's possible to write something like this.

I used OpenRC and s6 and both of them worked better and were easier to configure than SysV init.