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Lemmy seems like the right place to ask this. Personally I've really enjoyed Gurgle, which is a FOSS Wordle clone app.

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[โ€“] Jajcus@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Android is hardly open source these days.

[โ€“] puppy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How come? Isn't that like saying Linux is not open source these days because RedHat keeps making their code more restrictive?

[โ€“] Ghoelian@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

It would be like saying that if 99% of Linux users used RedHat.

AOSP is open source sure, but realistically basically everyone is using a closed source version that the OEM has messed with.

[โ€“] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, that's like saying RedHat isn't open source.

[โ€“] puppy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So that's like saying Google, Samsung is not open source. Not Android.

AOSP (Android Open Source Project) is separate from Google's. Similar to how RHEL and other related OSs are separate from Linux. Even though Google contributes to Android and Redhat contributes to Linux.

[โ€“] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

uhhhh.... I think? Android is built from linux, with a modified linux kernel, so linux can still be open source even when Android mostly isn't.

[โ€“] puppy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ghoelian has already responded to you with what I essentially meant:

It would be like saying that if 99% of Linux users used RedHat.

AOSP is open source sure, but realistically basically everyone is using a closed source version that the OEM has messed with.

[โ€“] puppy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Same with Linux. I don't know of anyone who runs Linux from Scratch. Every Linux distro adds non-open code, be it audio drivers or codecs and the like.

[โ€“] shrugal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is no such thing as "hardly open source". Either the source is open or it isn't, and the source of Android definitely is. I think what you mean is "community driven", which is not the same thing. But open source always enables community driven forks and derivatives, which there are plenty of for Android.