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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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I'm running a community at https://slrpnk.net/c/cdr but not sure how discoverable it is right now. Some of you might find it interesting (if anyone joins, and I actually start posting regular content).

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[–] CadeJohnson 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Direct air capture (cited for high energy requirements) is only one of dozens of CDR approaches. For example CDR approaches include a variety of biomass conversion paths. While it may be true that those processes require high energy, the plants obtain it all from the sun. In natural systems of the carbon cycle, the change of carbon from one form to another is incidental to the natural energy transformations that would naturally occur - so if we can find ways to shift the balances of some natural systems, maybe we can cause a lot more carbon to move from air to the crust in various ways. It is at least an interesting puzzle.

I hope we do not use the machinations of the fossil fuel industry to navigate the course. We would not abandon lung cancer research because tobacco companies might use the progress to sell more cigarettes.

[–] silence7 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes BECCS is a thing on paper. There's even one contract that Microsoft has signed for a small amount of it. It's going to be limited in scale though: the quantity of biofuels that can be sustainably produced is limited.

You need to get fossil fuel use to near zero for these to do what we need.

[–] CadeJohnson 1 points 2 years ago

DAC and BECCS are just two of many options. A lot of CDR choices will be based on location - what resources are available for moving CO2 from air to concentrated forms, and what means are available for keeping it in that form a long time. Silicate rock, crushed to dust, can "weather" to carbonate minerals relatively fast. There are a whole range of biomass conversion options - depending on what ecosystems are in a place, or can be established with local benefit. And for sequestering, there are also various ways to go.

And absolutely all of the CDR in the world will be wasted if we keep burning fossil fuels. But there are some fossil fuel uses that will be very difficult to eliminate, and there is all that legacy CO2 already in circulation - we have to do both; we have to achieve negative CO2.