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‘A critical moment’: UN warns world will miss climate targets unless fossil fuels phased out
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2023
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When you say "we", what I hear is "conservatives". Normal people are willing to change. Conservatives are not. And since they protect the billionaire class, we are all stuck.
Conservatives are killing us. They know this and mock us for being upset about it.
Sorry, gonna hard disagree there.
The first off-ramp we had to get off of fossil fuels was nuclear energy. It wasn't the conservatives who blocked that exit.
If nuclear energy buildup in the 1990s had followed the trend of the 1970s and 1980s, we could have kept CO2 below 400 ppm.
The three groups who conspired against that decarbonization were: the coal lobby, anti-nuclear activists and labour unions (because coal unions were strong back then).
Only one of those groups were the rich conservatives.
Only delusional people thing the Democrats actually want to help them. They're all crooked, the Republicans are just more open about it.
I don't even think its fair to blame it all in conservatives. Our governments are failing us as a whole
Our government in the U.S. has been some flavor of conservative this whole time. Neo-liberals are conservatives. They are smarter and better dressed, but they are still just conservatives who serve the ultra-wealthy.
If we want progress, we need progressives.
If we want progress we need to get corruption out of government. Nothing will change no matter who is in office until that happens
So... remove conservatives then. Corruption is a conservative trait. Neo-liberals are conservatives, so they should be removed with them.
So stupid to think only conservatives are victims of corruption. so naive.
What the total fuck are you talking about? Conservatives aren't the "victims" of corruption. They are the ones engaging in corruption. They are the ones who benefit from it.
Defending conservatives is fucking grotesque. Stop. They neither need nor want your defense.
Im not defending anyone, you are missing the point. they both suck the democrats engage in corruption too if you dont think they do you are an absolute dumbass. If you knew how to use your brain you would understand the difference between defending conservatives and hating everyone equally. Neither of the two sides are doing ANYTHING for you, everything BOTH SIDES DO is to benefit the rich, they just frame it differently. Same end goal, keep money flowing to the rich and special interest and lobby groups. Its simple.
So maybe you should stop defending democrats and ask for some real fucking change other than both garbage sides perpetuating the same broken system. Dumbass.
With your username im sure youre open to actually constructive criticism of the democrats /s.
First of all, you have called me stupid in every comment you've made to me. I have not returned that insult to you at all. I imagine if we were speaking face to face, you would think twice about that. I would take you more seriously if you would stop using insults as part of your position.
Secondly, the Democrat party is primarily composed of neo-liberals. Neo-liberals are conservatives. They go on the same smoldering pile of bodies as the conservatives when the time comes. As conservatives, they are corrupt, money-driven pieces of shit, just like 100% of Republicans.
The Democrat party does currently have a few progressives, however, who appear to not be greed-driven pieces of shit. If the party were composed of mostly people like them (progressives) instead of neo-liberals (conservatives), I would be satisfied with the Democrats.
I recommend you re-evaluate how you use insults in your debates. They are not helpful to your position and could result in you ending up on the wrong pile if you slip up and say that shit to someone in person.